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To: nanny
The solution?? Don't really have a clue.

The answer? It's simple: We need to educate our people better. It isn't H1-B that's doing us in, it's our schools. We need to demand a revolution in academic rigor in our schools. Otherwise we are doomed.

129 posted on 11/04/2002 6:36:48 AM PST by eno_
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To: eno_
The answer? It's simple: We need to educate our people better. It isn't H1-B that's doing us in, it's our schools.

Wrong. It's greedy corporate executives who could care less about America. It's people who believe everything those corporations report to the media.

We need to demand a revolution in academic rigor in our schools. Otherwise we are doomed.

We need to demand a repeal of the H1-B program. There are hundreds of thousands of HIGHLY educated and skilled Americans out of work. We don't need to import slaves from other lands.

133 posted on 11/04/2002 7:21:16 AM PST by FormerLurker
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To: eno_
[The answer? It's simple: We need to educate our people better. It isn't H1-B that's doing us in, it's our schools. We need to demand a revolution in academic rigor in our schools. Otherwise we are doomed.]

I totally agree with you on that. The H1B should have been put in place for a few years - 5 at the most - at which time our education system should have been geared up to provide those needed workers - rather than undereducating them.

But from what I have read on FR and heard on the few newscast I hear, we now have many, many educated and experienced Americans who need those jobs. The situation has changed in the last year. It sounds to me as if there is no further need for those workers. However, I will be very surprised if the program is stopped or even slowed. A company gets addicted to cheap labor and I don't see them or the politicians they own making any changes there. "I wouldn't ask that much of nature."

Our education system is just ridiculous - don't know a word to describe it really. I will confess, however, that I do see in America a lack of drive as a whole. In high school, there is much more emphasis on football, cheerleading, band, etc. than on excelling at academics. When you look at schools (high schools and even college), think about it - what place does sports have in the actual education? I know it is just a part of the system - but just think if we spent that much time, money, and effort getting children excited about learning what a country this would be. I have heard all the argument for, since I voiced this opinion at many school board and committe meetings at an East Texas high school - it is a wonder I wasn't tarred and feathered. Thinking back - I must have ben a very brave lady. My son was a big guy, but didn't play football. To impress a girl, he decided he was going to go out for football. They were going to let him drop Calculus so he could play football!!

136 posted on 11/04/2002 9:15:45 AM PST by nanny
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To: eno_
Gimme a break! Do you think the reason we are in this mess is because we lack talented engineers? I have a buddy who's got a Bachelor's degree in EE from MIT and a Master Degree from UT. He designs FPGAs and ASICs. His last design was a 20 million gate ASIC. He's been out of work for 8 months. Nobody will hire him at his age and salary history...nobody will hire him for even 2/3 his salary range!

This is all about corporate greed. CEOs didn't want to play by the rules of supply and demand, and coerced Congress to INTERVENE in the talent market. But the market always wins in the long run - unfortunately by the time that happens America as a country will be non-existent. Corporate CEOs and management, selling out loyalty to the country for a extra buck...

180 posted on 11/04/2002 7:32:21 PM PST by fogarty
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