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To: blondekates
Blondekates says: >>>Are you aware that it is a scientific fact that insects would infest all of our crops because spiders and other predators would not eat them, and they would be too great in number for the crops to regrow in time to be harvested by us? Therefore we would have no means of sustenance. Therefore all life would die out.<<<

Why couldn't there be cloning of plant or meat cells, so that there'd no longer be a need to kill plants & animals for our food? It's the height of hypocrisy that the folks who pretend to care about life get in the way of protecting it by whining whenever cloning technology is pursued here. Fortunately the USA is merely one of hundreds of nations, and cloning is being pursued full throttle abroad. Overseas they laugh at how our nation lets Bible-thumpers who have never perused any other books nevertheless slow our progress.

>>>Just because it doesn't look like a human, it's not a human? So if some extremely deformed child was a burden to it's mother, the mother has the right to end it's life? The point is, that baby has a DNA structure of it's own. It is not the mother's, and it is not the father's. It is a separate entity. A living growing human.<<<

Apes have DNA that's around 98% the same as that of humans. I don't see right to lifers fighting to protect ALREADY BORN apes from poachers, or inhumane conditions in zoos, or potential extinction though. Again, more hypocrisy. For it, the Republican Party's potential progress will be hindered today at the ballotbox.
263 posted on 11/04/2002 9:05:27 PM PST by End The Hypocrisy
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To: End The Hypocrisy
I don't even know where to begin. Your line of thinking is so far removed from reality that it is getting nearly impossible to even understand the point you are trying to make. Cloning? I don't understand why you are attempting to prove that I am a hypocrite using this argument. Cloning involves many scientific processes and testing on animals. Do you think that is humane? Plus you are comparing "cruelty to animals" to satisfy a basic need such as eating to an act of convenience, abortion.

Apes have DNA that's around 98% the same as that of humans.

Exactly right. 98% not 100%. I never said that I thought that inhumane treatment of animals was acceptable, but given the case at hand, I believe that there are more important issues to sort out dealing with our own species. Killing of our unborn should take precendence over hurt animals.

265 posted on 11/04/2002 10:16:48 PM PST by blondekates
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To: End The Hypocrisy
As I remember, the 98% DNA similarity number has been refuted recently by geneticists at Perlegen Sciences in Mountainview, Ca and at the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena. The real number is currently hypothesized as at or below 95%. And differences in 5% of genetic code translate to enormous differeces in species. Also, this statistic is not for apes in general, but for chimpanzees, the most closely-related primate to man. (The DNA comparisons by the human geneticists matched perfectly with those by the chimpanzee geneticists, I'm sure.;)

Are you aware of the percentage of DNA strands found different from human to human? In fact, according to the scale used to determine the difference between chimpanzee and human DNA, humans are assumed to have perfect similarity in DNA structure. I suggest you check it out and compare that statistic with the 5% difference between chimps and humans before you go acting like a 5% difference is so small.

I am perfectly prepared to be on this side of history, whether it is the right or wrong. Notice how I don't answer your question with a question to cover my discomfort with answering.

266 posted on 11/04/2002 10:54:39 PM PST by Risste
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