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Peggy Noonan - 'No Class': What Paul Wellstone might have thought of the memorial rally.
Opinion Journal ^ | 11/01/2002 | Peggy Noonan

Posted on 10/31/2002 9:17:54 PM PST by Pokey78

Edited on 04/23/2004 12:04:58 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: IncPen
I thought it was pretty well defined in the thread that called it the "Nuremburg Rally". I saw only a short bit of the "memorial" travesty, but I did hear the chants and they sounded just like "Sieg Heil!" over and over, and the raw, vicious hatred was palpable. These people are brown-shirt, jack-booted thugs and they would like to kill us just as much as Al Qaeda would like to IMO. Thank God the Clintons were unable to get the guns!

I usually like Peggy Noonan, but she's deaf, dumb and blind on this one IMO. That's probably because she knew and liked Paul Wellstone. I didn't, so I can't say if she's right or wrong. I can say that if he's judged on the spawn he left behind, ... well never mind.

Nuremburg Rally. That's exactly what it was, and we'd better head it off before it's too late.

41 posted on 10/31/2002 11:58:12 PM PST by Sal
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To: IncPen
Saul Alinsky, Rules For Radicals One of Hatellary Clintoon's favorite books,by her own admission!
42 posted on 11/01/2002 12:07:20 AM PST by MHGinTN
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To: Pokey78
I am excited to have just noted that Drudge is now featuring this on his page... I didn't see it earlier.
43 posted on 11/01/2002 3:40:02 AM PST by AFPhys
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To: AFPhys
Let me be very candidly specific. Some of you need to get a good psychologist and a good holy man or woman, a priest or rabbi or minister--or how about all three--and figure out why you're turning everything in your life into politics.

This is Peggy's very elegant way of telling the democrats that they are either insane or demon-possessed or both.

44 posted on 11/01/2002 3:53:59 AM PST by Miss Marple
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To: Sal
I usually like Peggy Noonan, but she's deaf, dumb and blind on this one IMO. That's probably because she knew and liked Paul Wellstone.

She only met Wellstone once. This is her third odd piece in a row. The one called "Whew" about the "snipers" was borderline silly and so was the one called "Paul Wellstone:An Appreciation"

See her archives here.

The Dems. have shown over and over that they will do just about anything to win. But the Wellstone "pep rally" showed that they might really do ANYTHING to win. Makes you wonder.....

45 posted on 11/01/2002 4:40:41 AM PST by isthisnickcool
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To: Fred Mertz
I think he is the same place that Wellstone is.
46 posted on 11/01/2002 5:05:23 AM PST by Rifleman
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To: Pokey78
One wonders if it's true that not long ago, someone suggested to Wellstone that he should get Peggy Noonan to write some speeches for him, and he said "not in this lifetime". >:)

Considering Wellstone's reputation for integrity (deserved or not) and the way the rally defecated on it, a very good piece.

-Eric

47 posted on 11/01/2002 5:15:09 AM PST by E Rocc
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To: AFPhys
Peggy's soft manner here is likely to consider the contemplative mood, which is all to the good.

You're probably right. When I clicked on the link to read this I thought, "I hope she gets it."

I thought she was too easy on them, and the device came off to this reader as being not unlike a high-school English paper.

Thanks for the reply...

48 posted on 11/01/2002 5:41:28 AM PST by IncPen
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To: Miss Marple
Let me be very candidly specific. Some of you need to get a good psychologist and a good holy man or woman, a priest or rabbi or minister--or how about all three--and figure out why you're turning everything in your life into politics.

This is Peggy's very elegant way of telling the democrats that they are either insane or demon-possessed or both.

I thought the same thing. She has drawn them in with soothing rhetoric and proceeded to tell them they are warped and need serious help.

49 posted on 11/01/2002 5:56:51 AM PST by TexasNative2000
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To: Pokey78
P.S.

"And I can't BELIEVE, I just can't believe that you wouldn't allow the Vice President of these United States to attend the memorial service in my honor. You told him "stay away, don't come?"..

What is wrong with you people?

sw

50 posted on 11/01/2002 5:57:23 AM PST by spectre
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To: IncPen
Everyone knows what happened, no one can deny it, but everyone is too shocked by it to speak clearly about it.

That is because most of us have respect for death. We automatically feel compassion for those who have lost loved ones. However, most of us were not prepared for the political spectacle that the Wellstone Memorial became and most of us were shocked when we saw the sons of Paul Wellstone behaving in such undignified manners. It was almost the feeling one would have when out of one's own culture. The alien nature of that memorial was very raw. Growing up I was always repelled when I heard some of my elderly southern relatives say that blacks are ok one on one but get them together it's a different thing....... Well, after this week's disgusting display I think we have discovered that it is very much true of democrats. Maybe one Democrat alone is ok but a crowd of them is a Saturnalian blood-letting.

51 posted on 11/01/2002 6:37:09 AM PST by Lauratealeaf
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To: Pokey78
There are some bad folks on the other side, it's fair to say it. But most of them? All of them? They're all the enemy? How could that be?

One could say this from either side.

52 posted on 11/01/2002 6:39:50 AM PST by RJCogburn
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To: IncPen
"But the words that truly say what happened in Minnesota, the words that stick and the words that succinctly define it have not yet been uttered."

When I got up this morning I was really going to utter those "words that stick" until I read your post. Now, I'm not going to utter them, no matter how much you beg and plead.

53 posted on 11/01/2002 6:40:46 AM PST by Enterprise
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To: Sal
the chants and they sounded just like "Sieg Heil!" over and over

They were chanting "We will win!" which is unnervingly close to "Sieg Heil!" which translates as "Hail Victory!".

54 posted on 11/01/2002 6:43:06 AM PST by Jeff Chandler
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To: Pokey78
Only one thing missing from Paul, he should have spanked his kids and admonished them for allowing such a party and celebrating their new found fortune/inheritance.
55 posted on 11/01/2002 6:48:35 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: Pokey78
Big fan of Peggy's voice and her insight. I have been since I read What I Saw at the Revolution when it first came out. Its easy to see her sincerity here, but its framing in Wellstone's voice is wasted. I would rather have seen her make the same points in her own voice, as Noonan. It would be more effective.

But, that event was so jarring and illuminating that all thoughtful people are bound to still be grasping for that special insight.

56 posted on 11/01/2002 6:52:29 AM PST by KC Burke
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To: Pokey78
Peggy thinks the people on that casket/podium have a conscience. How quaint.

Memo to Peggy: those are the people who, if they gained all political power tomorrow, would confiscate all your property and lodge you on a collective farm. If you resisted, they would have you shot.

57 posted on 11/01/2002 6:55:59 AM PST by Taliesan
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To: Enterprise
no matter how much you beg and plead

A gentleman never begs... a lady never makes him....

: )

58 posted on 11/01/2002 7:36:07 AM PST by IncPen
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To: IncPen
Even a gentleman can blush though.
59 posted on 11/01/2002 7:37:27 AM PST by Enterprise
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To: Lauratealeaf
I agree - this is in a fashion using a fictional Wellstone to chastise the dems - a different version of using his casket as the stump.

Not her best article.
60 posted on 11/01/2002 7:46:11 AM PST by ClancyJ
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