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Report Of U.S. Troops Being Placed Under A Foreign U.N. Commander Causes Uproar
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Posted on 10/31/2002 8:31:33 AM PST by RCW2001

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To: exodus
I want the US out of the UN and the UN out of the US! It has always been a tool of the anti-Americans!
121 posted on 11/01/2002 4:30:39 AM PST by Chapita
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To: sneakypete
I agree ordering troops to serve under a foreign command is constitutional ordering them to take a loyalty oath to an entity which conflicts with loyalty to America is not.
122 posted on 11/01/2002 7:29:55 AM PST by weikel
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To: FreeReign
The people vote for the politicians.

Yah, even dead people...

EBUCK

123 posted on 11/01/2002 8:36:25 AM PST by EBUCK
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To: GWELO
You and I will have to share a foxhole sometime (hopefully later rather than sooner).

Regards,
EBUCK
124 posted on 11/01/2002 8:43:27 AM PST by EBUCK
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To: Issaquahking
We need to get rid of the U.N. first, before anything else happens.

IMO, the UN has a lot more to do with the reasons behind the convoy than anything else on the domestic front. And YES, get the UN out of our affairs ASAP. The last thing I want to see is a homegrown soldier, wearing the sissy blue, enforcing A.21 here at home (or anywhere else for that matter).

EBUCK

125 posted on 11/01/2002 8:46:21 AM PST by EBUCK
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To: KDD; cake_crumb
Yup. He lied. Thanks KDD.

CC, read the speech please.

EBUCK

126 posted on 11/01/2002 8:48:25 AM PST by EBUCK
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
My MO? No such agenda here. When the pres says

"Likewise, international organizations can serve the cause of peace. I will never place U.S. troops under U.N. command – but the U.N. can help in weapons inspections, peacekeeping and humanitarian efforts. If I am president, America will pay its dues – but only if the U.N.’s bureaucracy is reformed, and our disproportionate share of its costs is reduced."

Then we find US troops under UN command what do you want us to do? Sit on our hands because the fate of the country supposedly hangs in the balance?

EBUCK

127 posted on 11/01/2002 8:52:50 AM PST by EBUCK
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To: USA21
Gawdamn that is scary stuff. Tell me it aint true....

EBUCK

128 posted on 11/01/2002 8:58:20 AM PST by EBUCK
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To: exodus
we haven't been at war since the end of World War 2.

On the contrary. We have been in a State of National Emergency since that time. All power in the hands of the pres.

EBUCK

129 posted on 11/01/2002 9:00:58 AM PST by EBUCK
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To: exodus
Rather than looking for a law that forbids U.S. troops being placed under a foreign power, look for an Amendment that allows that power.

I think it's somewhere in the general welfare clause.

EBUCK

130 posted on 11/01/2002 9:01:52 AM PST by EBUCK
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To: sneakypete
I don't know that any American servicemen have taken that oath "yet".

And, yup, I'd refuse as well.

But it really is a differnet world inside the services. I served under the Clown for 4 years and only toward the end (after a lot of the boot camp brainwashing withered away) did I start to see the truth of what we were doing, hence no desire for reenlistment.

EBUCK
131 posted on 11/01/2002 9:05:40 AM PST by EBUCK
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To: sneakypete
No,they can't. The electro-magnetic pulse from a nuclear explosion will disable them,but I really don't see us nuking ourselves to create massive traffic jams and place our population on foot. Do you?

Actually they can (be shut down), without the use of EMP. There are a few tools that can accomplish this. High voltage and high frequency lasers are the most reliable. But I don't think there is a sinsister purpose to the computer cars. They are a lot more efficient and a lot more powerfull, demands of the consumer (thru the government of course).

There is also a push to install remote cop operated kill switches at the factory, but I don't know how far that will go.

EBUCK

132 posted on 11/01/2002 9:09:43 AM PST by EBUCK
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To: sneakypete
I'll never tell...

GWB Is The Man !!

Death To all Muslim Extremist's !!

Snuff Saddam, NOW !!

The RATS Are In Disarray...Eradicate The Rodents !!

Fire Democrats, Hire Republicans !!

The Second Amendment...
America's Original Homeland Security !!

Freedom Is Worth Fighting For !!

Let's Roll !!

Molon Labe !!

133 posted on 11/01/2002 9:15:18 AM PST by blackie
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To: sneakypete
and soon they will be building very large tent cities.

More HorseHillary! WHERE would they be getting all these tents from,where would they put them,and who would they get to guard them? ,

A quick search on Yahoo -fema tent cities, would have brought you a wealth of information. There is a whole page filled with diffrent articles on this. This is just the first one I grabbed. This is a fact just as so is it a fact about the holding camps that they used for the Japanese. That was an executive order signed years ago and I saw the actual order years ago.

Instead of just mocking maybe you should ask for information or sources to back up what someone is saying.

For the others I will look up the information later as I have things I have to do for now!

FEMA Plans to Move Residents of Towns, Cities

A federal agency that, over the years, has been granted unprecedented powers in the event of a national emergency, is now making plans to move millions of Americans in the event of a biological, chemical or nuclear attack.

Exclusive to American Free Press

By Mike Blair

The Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), the little known federal bureaucracy tasked with running the country in the event of a war or declaration of martial law, is preparing methods to rapidly “relocate” hundreds of thousands—even millions—of Americans from cities that may come under attack with nuclear, biological or chemical weapons.

It is known within FEMA as Standby Technical Assistance for Disaster Related Operations. The agency announced June 19 it was receiving bids of $300 million for a five-year contract to prepare preliminary plans to create temporary housing for hundreds of thousands of Americans who would be moved in the event of “multiple mass destruction attacks” on U.S. cities.

This was followed up with a meeting at the Department of Education in Washington July 10, when about 100 people, including FEMA officials and representatives of firms interested in placing the bids, met to discuss details of the “standby” program, reported News Max.com, a news web site.

FEMA may be taking its cue from a smaller program that is already planned by Israel in the event it is attacked with weapons of mass destruction from Iraq.

Ramat City, adjacent to Tel Aviv, is one of the cities making plans to evacuate citizens.

Ramat City was struck by SCUD missiles during the 1991 Gulf War and plans are underway to establish a tent city in southern Israel, where large numbers of the city’s residents could be relocated.

At the July 10 meeting, FEMA officials made it clear that the purpose of the relocation “standby” plan was to prepare for potential attacks.

The bids are being sought from major American real estate management and engineering firms. FEMA plans to select three firms in the near future to handle the logistics for the new temporary cities.

According to the NewsMax.com report, FEMA wants to hire the contractors by next January.

FEMA has made no effort to conceal the fact that the proposal is the largest undertaking in its history, is a “crash program” and is part of a massive plan to prepare America for retaliation when President Bush strikes Iraq.

Through a series of presidential executive orders (EOs) issued by presidents going back to at least John Kennedy, FEMA has amassed the power to virtually take over the running of the nation in the event that martial law is declared.

Under established EOs, FEMA would actually have the power to replace the authority of the president and Congress during such an event.

During recent hurricanes along the East Coast, FEMA tested mass movements of people when it ordered thousands of Americans to leave their homes and travel to safer ground out of the path of the storms.

Previous presidents have signed individual EOs granting FEMA specific powers to control the distribution of food and fuel, the traffic on American railways and inland waterways and air travel. It also now has the authority to detain countless Americans.

FEMA would play a key role in the projected efforts from the new Homeland Security Act being ram-rodded through the Congress by the Bush administration, which gives the government extraordinary new powers that drastically curtail civil rights under the Constitution.

MCD

134 posted on 11/01/2002 2:57:09 PM PST by MSCASEY
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To: MSCASEY
A quick search on Yahoo -fema tent cities, would have brought you a wealth of information.

Big deal. This is emergency planning,and nothing more. There is nothing sinister about it. This is what FEMA does.

135 posted on 11/01/2002 3:42:08 PM PST by sneakypete
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To: sneakypete
More HorseHillary! WHERE would they be getting all these tents from,where would they put them,and who would they get to guard them?

First it is totally non-existent. Then I show it does exist and this is the response I get!

Big deal. This is emergency planning,and nothing more. There is nothing sinister about it. This is what FEMA does.

This is not even worth attempting to have a discussion with you. Your right it is all for the good of the people. Homeland Security, Rico, The Patriot Act and all of those executive orders are all for our own security.

It makes no sense to kick the terrorist out and develop missile defense. Just like running a NCIC check on anyone buying an airline ticket and then if they don't check out have extra security checks, does not make sense.

Yes we should believe everything our government tells us and the media. YES FEMA GOOD, UN GOOD, HOMELAND SECURITY GOOD, and please take our guns for our own protection.

No I won't even look up any more information. You have no interest in knowledge.

MCD

136 posted on 11/02/2002 12:30:41 AM PST by MSCASEY
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To: MSCASEY
First it is totally non-existent.

Tent cities ARE non-existant,period! There are plans for POTENTINAL tent cities,but NOT in the sense you indicated.

Then I show it does exist and this is the response I get!

"Big deal. This is emergency planning,and nothing more. Thereis nothing sinister about it. This is what FEMA does."

You didn't show any tent cities exist because they don't. My post was correct in every sense.

This is not even worth attempting to have a discussion with you.Your right it is all for the good of the people. Homeland Security,Rico, The Patriot Act and all of those executive orders are all for our own security.

WHERE have I ever said that?

YES FEMA GOOD,

Yes,FEMA IS "good". I don't like the idea of them having so much authority,and would really love to see somebody take them to court and sue them to eliminate their un-Constitutional authority to dominate over local governments. THIS is the one area where abuse of power is a real concern. They have no legal right to give orders to state and local officials,and this bogus "authority" won't end until some local sheriff steps forward and asserts his authority over them.

UN GOOD, HOMELAND SECURITY GOOD, and please take our guns for our own protection.

Oh,yeah. EVERYBODY how knows me knows I'm a big fan of all that stuff.(sarcasm)

No I won't even look up any more information. You have no interest in knowledge.

I have no interest in paranoid HorseHillary.

137 posted on 11/02/2002 7:34:38 AM PST by sneakypete
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