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To: Prodigal Son
People are free here (Britain)

Sure they are. They're free in Cuba too in that they don't live in prisons. Open a shop and sell something that you weigh in pounds and ounces. Go buy a handgun for self protection. No, never mind the handgun. Go buy a can of pepper spray for self protection. What, can't do it? I guess you aren't free to do some fundamental things like effectively defend yourself from agression there.

We aren't especially free in the USA. (Try building on your property if the EPA has declared it a "wetland") But you sure are a hell of a lot less free there than we are here.

You remind me of the story of the old black guy that was walking through the cemetary reading the inscriptions on the tombstones. He came to one that said "Not dead but sleeping" His comment was "That boy ain't foolin' nobody but hisself."

39 posted on 10/31/2002 7:38:19 AM PST by from occupied ga
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To: from occupied ga
You can own a firearm in Great Britain. I'm not sure about all the regulations behind it because I've never tried to buy one here- but it is possible to own a firearm. Firearms aren't the only weapons either. When I lived in the States, although I carried a pistol (illegally btw) I generally prefer to protect myself with my wits and whatever is readily at hand. Some people only feel safe with a gun and this is understandable- a gun is more prudent in some situations.

BTW, I am an American. I live in Scotland. Great Britain is not a totalitarian state. You can come and go as you please. You can own property, start a business, accumulate wealth. We don't pay nearly as much tax as you would imagine. If you want to talk about oppressive states because of taxation- try Sweden.

Think about this- there are more socialists in America than in Great Britain. There are more people that want socialism in America than in Great Britain. If you gathered up all the Americans who want socialism and created a new country in Europe and put all those people there- it would be far and away the most populace country in Europe.

Every time you pay your taxes in the States, you are actively funding Egypt, Palestine and other such nations.

The NRA donates money to Socialist Candidates in the States- this is a fact.

You can pretend the USA is a totally free utopia, but it isn't and you know this. The last President actually tried to start social medicine. If you look cross eyed at the stewardess on an American Airliner, the air marshall will put a gun to your head or make the entire cabin hold the arms in the air for the remainder of the flight. I could list lots of examples that strike me as oppressive but all one needs to do is read Free Republic on a daily basis and listen to the complaints of every Freeper to realize that the gov't in the USA is an 800 pound gorrilla that leans on everyone the wrong way.

Nobody has stated that Great Britain isn't largely socialist. But if you boycott every entity that doesn't suit you, eventually you wouldn't be able to step out of your yard. Nodody is begging you to come over here. But you are absolutely 100% wrong when you call the UK a totalitarian state. If the UK is totalitarian- what pray tell would you call a real totalitarian state? This is what's known as hyperbole. Like the current trend of calling everybody and his brother a Nazi. The problem with hyperbole is it tends to destroy the original concept.

47 posted on 10/31/2002 8:44:56 AM PST by Prodigal Son
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