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To: Z in Oregon; FITZ; Lorianne
Patriarchal societies seem to be the ones where the fathers know their children, help raise them, and spend time with them, educating them etc. Matriarchal societies are there the women are on their own, the children don't know their fathers, the fathers don't much care about them, they tend to stay with women for only a short time --just enough to breed them. It seems obvious patriarchal would be better for everyone.
True.

Actually, I made the term I used "matrilineal" (children know who the mother is, father not really in the picture) rather than "matriarchal" (women rule) for a reason.

Look at matrilineal societies like Somalia or South-Central LA. The women don't rule. Nobody really rules, builds, or establishes anything. You just have competing gangs of men, and the women are effectively owned by whichever man chooses to offer them temporary protection from the other predatory males, or they're on their own.

I've never seen a historical record of a true matriarchal society (as distinct from a patriarchal society that happens to have a woman succeed to the throne every once in a while)

209 posted on 11/02/2002 7:34:15 AM PST by SauronOfMordor
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To: SauronOfMordor
I've never seen a historical record of a true matriarchal society (as distinct from a patriarchal society that happens to have a woman succeed to the throne every once in a while)

I haven't either because I think it's like you imply ---women only have equal power in a patriarchal society, the matrilineal societies, they are impoverished and raising children alone or temporarily with serial boyfriends or the government sends a check.

216 posted on 11/02/2002 8:28:33 AM PST by FITZ
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To: SauronOfMordor
Semantics. Notice how in all definitions the mother is present and accounted for. It is when the father is a.w.o.l. that there are problems.
542 posted on 11/07/2002 10:48:58 AM PST by Lorianne
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