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I did ask him for coffee...but he made no move to buy it for me. When he asked me out a second time, I sent him a long email talking about "human considerations" and that he was not thinking of my well-being when he drove away while I walked to my car. Of course, if a man treats you like this in the first place, they have no capacity for understanding when you try to explain it to them. He responded with "Well, it's not like we were in a relationship or anything."...I explained to him that I would give a ride to any of my friends whether we were in a relationship or not.

For anyone who doesn't live in Los Angeles, you don't understand. You can conduct yourself as a woman and command respect...but many of the men here have never ever learned to even have human considerations and manners let alone treating a woman "special". This is not a rare story. My friends and I have story after story. When we come across a well-mannered man, it is truly on the miraculous side. I know to date Southern men as they have been raised with manners and treat women with respect.

[waterstraat]

Consider yourself lucky you never see that guy again.

You are right, I dont live in Los Angeles, and I dont understand.

I dont buy the southern men fable anymore, I dont think there are much differences anymore between south and north. Chivalry, that old southern lifesyle and way of living, is, for the most part,,,,, Gone With the Wind.

There are plenty of intellegent gentlemen in Nebraska, and all over, but crude men are all over too, even in the south. Crude and selfish men outnumber the good ones, and seem to be more on the prowl. I do think you would have better luck finding a real man in a church. I also think that women who are not looking, see so many more good men, than those who are looking.

I know of a man who was just dumped, who is the most curteous, generous, successful, and nicest man in my circle of friends. I have absolutely no idea why that stupid girl dumped him, after 4 years, except maybe because he went fishig twice a week during the summer?

Some women are just programmed to self-destruct, and can not marry a good man. I have seen so many women dump fine men, and then end up marrying losers.

Somehow, I just dont think that California would be the place to look for a good man. Why would good conservative men go there?