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Psychic Made Stunning Sniper Predictions
NewsMax.com ^ | 10/29/02 | Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff

Posted on 10/30/2002 2:19:55 AM PST by kattracks

NewsMax rarely discusses paranormal things, and we give short shrift to such out-of-this-world wisdom -- even if CNN’s Larry King has mainstreamed psychics.

True, most psychics are quacks or frauds who like to make big after-the-fact claims and cash in on their fame.

But one apparently isn’t.

Her name is Elizabeth Baron.

A self-described "spiritualist" from Charleston, S.C., Baron offered a series of stunning insights into the recent sniper attacks around Washington.

Some of them were recorded on radio before the snipers were captured, making her claims more than credible.

Soon after the spree killings began on Oct. 2, Baron claimed that there was indeed an Islamic connection to the killings.

She also said – contrary to the many "profilers" spouting off – that the killings were being conducted by more than one individual.

She stated that a group of as many as five individuals were involved, although all did not do the killings themselves.

Baron also insists that an unidentified woman is involved.

Interestingly, Baron may have had a premonition of the attacks in April of this year. At that time she faxed a letter to a friend close to the FBI, indicating that Maryland was in danger and needed to be protected.

Days before the shooting of the man at the Ponderosa steak house in Ashland, Va., Baron said she had received the message "They will surrender in Richmond."

Ashland is a suburb of Richmond. According to press reports police have said that they almost captured Muhammad and Malvo at a pay phone in Richmond soon after the Ashland shooting.

Baron believes that the shooting in the Richmond area gave the police the evidence and clues they needed to help solve the case.

On Oct. 21, Baron said she began intense prayer to help her define the killer. She penciled a sketch of a very young man she believed was black or Hispanic.

She received another message: The man is with another man and they are driving a blue car.

All of that sounds rather fantastic and fabricated.

It might have been dismissed as such had it not been recorded for posterity on a national radio program.

On Tuesday, Oct. 22, Baron was an early morning guest on Phil Paleologos’ morning talk radio show "American Breakfast," broadcast on Cable Radio Network.

Paleologos told NewsMax he remains in awe of Baron’s prediction and revelations two days before the arrest of Muhammad and Malvo, before anyone even knew who was doing these killings.

"She came on my show and said, 'The Feds are on a wild goose chase; there is no white van involved, there is a blue car,'" Paleologos recalled, adding that Baron also made clear the killings involved a group and not one person.

"But she was really emphatic about this blue vehicle," Paleologos said, who noted that the only talk at the time had been of a white van.

When news broke late Wednesday night into Thursday morning that Muhammad and Malvo were suspects and may be driving a blue Caprice -- one they were later captured in – Paleologos was stunned.

The next day, he called Baron and played her on-air interview from days before, and congratulated her.

Paleologos says in all of his years on radio, Baron is the only person he has interviewed who he believes has true spiritual, psychic abilities.

"She has a gift. It's a blessing to have this, to help solve these cases and right wrongs," Paleologos told NewsMax. He said she is different in many ways from other psychics, and that she is not motivated by fame or fortune.

Baron, the mother of seven children, is the widow of a former Chicago-area police chief.

Baron has been issuing warnings about Islamic terrorism for several years. Since 1996, she has been saying that several nations, including Iraq and Iran, were helping to plan a major terrorist attack in lower Manhattan, specifically noting the New York Stock Exchange and the World Trade Center as targets.

In recent months, Baron says she has received some warnings about President Bush and Vice President Cheney, which she has passed on to federal authorities. She wouldn’t disclose the full details of these revelations publicly.

On another matter, asked if Steve Hatfill had anything to do with the anthrax attacks, she said, "It’s an absolute lie." Still, she added, the FBI is trying to find something on him to justify its investigation and actions against him.


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Maybe the profilers should have consulted with Elizabeth Baron.
1 posted on 10/30/2002 2:19:55 AM PST by kattracks
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To: kattracks
"In recent months, Baron says she has received some warnings about President Bush and Vice President Cheney."

They're going to try hard. I can only pray they fail.
2 posted on 10/30/2002 2:33:08 AM PST by DB
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To: kattracks
The last part gave me a jolt. For the last week I have been feeling that the NYSE is the next big target, a simultaneous bomb and cyber attack perhaps, and my husband thinks this will be coordinated with suicide bombers or snipers in shopping malls, perhaps The Mall of America.

I would pass this off if it weren't for the fact that we discussed in 1992 our belief that terrorists would attack New York and D.C. within the next decade. And my husband pinpointed The World Trade Center as the site they would want to bomb first.

3 posted on 10/30/2002 2:37:14 AM PST by patriciaruth
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To: kattracks
Psychic/smychic!
4 posted on 10/30/2002 2:51:57 AM PST by Lurking2Long
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To: kattracks
I don't find this hard to believe. This women is in league with and works for the same boss (Satan) as the snipers. So, of course she can get "inside" information.
5 posted on 10/30/2002 3:15:59 AM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: kattracks
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6 posted on 10/30/2002 3:16:12 AM PST by ffrancone
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To: Lurking2Long

7 posted on 10/30/2002 3:24:22 AM PST by Jaxter
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To: kattracks
"Psychic" quacks rely on all sorts of tricks. I see signs of several possibilities in this article:

1. People remember your "hits" and overlook your "misses". Note that the article admits several things this woman "predicted" which simply have not panned out (e.g. "five people" involved).

2. People who "want to believe" will give them the benefit of the doubt on things which fail to match, and/or "stretch to fit" ("aha, there *might* be five people involved, we just didn't catch them all!")

3. With dozens of "psychics" making "predictions" on any big public story, one or two are bound to have a few unusually lucky guesses. We never hear about the "psychics" which predicted yellow cars, red cars, orange cars... But the one that spun a tale about a "blue" car gets to make all the papers, and use it as "proof" that she's the real McCoy...

4. The really slick "psychics" will do a hell of a lot of research, so that their "predictions" will be better than wild guesses. They'll have spent years developing far-flung sources they can turn to for "inside" information. (One famous example hired private detectives to investigate her wealthy clients, so that she could "know" things about them that she "couldn't possibly have known unless she were truly psychic"). In this case, note that the blue car "prediction" was publicly announced TWO DAYS short of the snipers' capture. Rather than being "evidence" of her amazing abilities, it's more likely evidence that she had found an inside source in the investigation and pumped them for information -- the police had known about the involvement of Muhammad's blue Caprice for at least a week before the capture. Then the "psychic" arranges a big radio interview where she can "reveal" her "psychic insight" so that she can reap loads of free publicity when her "prediction" turns out to be "uncannily accurate". One more "miracle" for the ol' resume...

A good "psychic" knows every trick in the book to rope in new suckers.

8 posted on 10/30/2002 3:33:39 AM PST by Dan Day
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To: kattracks
It was suggested here on Oct 17. Read some of the responses.
9 posted on 10/30/2002 3:39:07 AM PST by Consort
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To: DB
I predict daylight will begin to fade on the entire East Coast in about 10 hours. The good news: it's only going to last for about 12 hours.
10 posted on 10/30/2002 3:50:47 AM PST by A Vast RightWing Conspirator
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To: kattracks
Always remember that the Bible warns us of psychics. Even if they are right on, it's not a wise use of one's resources monetarily or spiritually.
11 posted on 10/30/2002 4:01:30 AM PST by WellsFargo94
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To: AmericaUnited
Why do you believe that? She stated that she intensly prayed to receive information. How is this any different then saints and prophets. Perhaps she is another living saint. The bible is replete with holy people who see visions of the future.
12 posted on 10/30/2002 4:09:14 AM PST by StolarStorm
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To: kattracks
No offense, but several Freepers (including me) made similar on-target predictions about the sniper.
13 posted on 10/30/2002 4:19:15 AM PST by HitmanLV
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To: WellsFargo94
I concur with StolarStorm. Our prophets received the word of God, and many psychics today are devout christians that praise God for their gifts. I keep an open mind about things like this. Almost everyoned has seen or experience something strange or unexplainable. Don't confuse what I'm talking about with the $3.99 per minute phone wackos.

One of my favorite "psychics" to listen to is Sylvia Browne. She's a delightful woman who has many interesting things to say. Edgar Cayce (The Sleeping Prophet) was a devout Catholic I believe. He healed over 90% of the people who wrote him asking for help. The healings were usually in the form of a medical treatment that he would detail during trance that would be mailed back to the requestor. Better than 90% success rate and it's documented in detail.

I don't think it would be wise for us to question what gifts God may decide to bestow upon us.

14 posted on 10/30/2002 4:22:39 AM PST by jrhepfer
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To: kattracks
So many pundits so many speculations, someone had to get it close just on guesswork.
15 posted on 10/30/2002 4:42:37 AM PST by alisasny
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To: StolarStorm
She stated that she intensly prayed to receive information. How is this any different then saints and prophets. Perhaps she is another living saint. The bible is replete with holy people who see visions of the future.

Yes, the Bible also is replete with those who pray to demons. The Bible is replete with warnings to have NOTHING to do with sourcery and witchcraft. This women is a witch. Check out her web site. Astral travel??!! Trances??!! PURE, 100%, UNADULTERATED WITCHCRAFT@!

http://www.elizabethbaron.com/

16 posted on 10/30/2002 4:44:48 AM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: jrhepfer
Please, this is almost laughable. Genuine prophets of the Most High God do not sell "readings", trance services, books on atral travel, etc. THIS IS PURE WITHCRAFT!
17 posted on 10/30/2002 4:46:47 AM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: AmericaUnited
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18 posted on 10/30/2002 4:48:52 AM PST by Nick Thimmesch
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To: kattracks; MadIvan
I had a psychic come into the advertising department of my newspaper one day when I was there.
She was looking for the small ads girl, to put in an advertisement about her clinics.

But the girl she was looking for was out of the office at the time.
I said: 'Hey, if you are such a good psychic, how come you didn't know she wasn't here before you came in?''

She didn't take an ad! *L*
19 posted on 10/30/2002 4:50:28 AM PST by Happygal
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To: kattracks
"Soon after the spree killings began on Oct. 2, Baron claimed that there was indeed an Islamic connection to the killings."

Big whoop! I was saying the same thing. Does that make me psychic? This fall under the category of educated guess.

20 posted on 10/30/2002 4:51:29 AM PST by Destructor
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