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To: tiki
Free trade means there are winners and losers. Sorry to hear you are a loser, but you must change and adapt.
6 posted on 10/29/2002 10:57:17 PM PST by staytrue
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To: staytrue; tiki
With a an attitude like, staytrue that we may well be the next Brazil. A very small top tier smart enough to adopt, no middle class of any worthy size and the vast poor working service jobs that make them wage slaves.

But isolation and trade barriers is not the answer.

8 posted on 10/29/2002 11:02:47 PM PST by Destro
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To: staytrue
[Free trade means there are winners and losers. Sorry to hear you are a loser, but you must change and adapt.]

How can you be so flip about the destruction of the manufacturing base of this nation and the destruction of the middle class working people?

Also, unless you work for the government, hire illegal aliens, or rob banks, your job is a potential loser.

When I hear these tales, and the cavalier statements of some, I am reminded of the old poem or story of Hitler and the Jews. How the writer didn't care because they didn't come for him, time after time, until they did come for him and there was no one left to care.

I do not believe the figures someone posted about our production, but won't argue. The sad thing about what we do still produce, it is being done by illegal aliens that pay no taxes, have to be cared for by the remaining workers.

There is no win in this for America - maybe for a few - but I just don't understand anyone being so smug about fellow citizens loosing their jobs and way of life.

But Hey!! We are destroying the unions, right? Not!!! They unions are courting the illegals right and left.

11 posted on 10/30/2002 6:21:54 AM PST by nanny
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To: staytrue
Free trade means there are winners and losers. Sorry to hear you are a loser, but you must change and adapt.
I thought "free" trade was supposed to benefit us all. Did you move the goalpost a little closer? You pit one American against another and then scratch your head everytime voters hear the class warfare rhetoric and go vote for democrats. When we went from agrarian to industrail, we did not ship agriculture overseas, we used industry to improve agriculture. Likewise, we should not abandon industry in favor of information. Instead the information age should be used to automate industry, which we should keep here. BTW, would you rather pay income taxes or import taxes? Hint - you don't have to file for import taxes.

16 posted on 10/30/2002 9:19:50 AM PST by sixmil
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To: staytrue
Well, not to brag but I'm not a loser. I have a lot of assets and have been in the same business for 30 yrs and my son is starting to take over. I am a success because I work hard and I'm smart and I see what free trade has done to our community. I've never been in a tornado or a hurricane but I've seen the damage they create.
22 posted on 10/30/2002 10:42:57 PM PST by tiki
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