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Stablize the area LOL!

We killed the head of south Viet Nam. We went against the guy in the North who had been our ally in WWII. We lied to keep the fight going and kill even more of them and us. We sent the country into serious debt. We wouldn't let them be, because in all liklihood their people would have voted communist on their own, something they had a right to do. We didn't give it our best shot and got even more of our folks killed.We lied to give the president extraconstitutional war powers. And the commies took over anyway.

So tell me about stability.

...What matters to the People of a now Communist Vietnam is...

...what's happening to them there...

...NOW.

...Many leave that cannot stand the persecution, others simply...

...DIE from it.

...Vietnamese Actor DON DUONG...

...is being branded a Traitor to Communist Vietnam...

...simply for portraying a...

...NVA Commander who lost to...

...MEL GIBSON in...

.."WE WERE SOLDIERS"..!!!

...This one man...

...who we here could be awarding...

...and Academy Award / Golden Globe Award to this year for his outstanding portrayal...

...doesn't even know if he's.. even going to be alive then...

...to accept them.

DON DUONG is learning just what the Vietnam War was really all about ...IN PERSON as a resident of HO CHI MINH City.

PRAY 4-DON DUONG.

Signed:..ALOHA RONNIE / Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 / Landing Zone Falcon / http://www.lzxray.com

NEVER FORGET

ALOHA 2-breakem

...Since the Biblical Interpretation of the word MEEK is defined as .."Being OPEN -&- TEACHABLE".. in telling us that...

.."The MEEK shall inherit the Earth"..

...shall we do some comparing here...?

...The real invasion of Vietnam began when a convoluted French Communism invaded HO CHI MINH's head when he was a College Student in the Paris, France of the 1920's.

...Upon his return to Vietnam Communist Leader HO CHI MINH spread his vile stuff throughout the Indo-China Peninsula of S.E. Asia by bringing insurgent leaders from Cambodia and Laos to Hanoi, Communist North Vietnam ..to personally train them in his convoluted version of Communism ...which then quickly spread throughout Indo-China.

...This eventually led to the KILLING FIELDS of Cambodia by Communists who just loved to kill with impunity.

...I will NEVER FORGET witnessing in person in Los Angeles a fleeing Madam "Dragon Lady" NGU DIEM threatening JFK in a 1993 TV News Conference with asassination for asasinating her husband President DIEM in South Vietnam just before I was to enter the U.S. Army with Vietnam in my own future. One month later JFK WAS assassinated.

...Communism was the 1st Invader of Vietnam and it still invades.

...Just ask .."WE WERE SOLDIERS".. Vietnamese Actor DON DUONG who is awaiting his undeserved punishment for being declared a TRAITOR to Communism in a formerly Free Saigon.

...Sharing here my GOD-given life experiences that He brought me to ..and then through for a reason ..serves to bring a perspective to what we as Americans are all dealing with now.

...Since I personally witnessed the time when College students HILLARY RODHAM -&- BILL CLINTON were working hard in partnership with HO CHI MINH for his Communist Victory over Freedom in South Vietnam upon my return from the Vietnam War...

...I share here real alarm now that HILLARY RODHAM is pushing just as hard for her own Victory over US in Election Year 2004.

The phrase .."GIVE ME LIBERTY or GIVE ME DEATH".. comes to mind.

And what is your committment to here..?

ALOHA RONNIE

We went against the guy in the North who had been our ally in WWII.

This, of course, makes him a good person. Same goes for Stalin, I s'pose.

We lied to keep the fight going and kill even more of them and us.

If only. If only we'd kept that fight going, and then won it decisively, in the process giving our troops the proper support. Then both we and they would have been better off.

Instead we hamstrung our own troops, and finally pulled out and gave the murderers a blank check.

We wouldn't let them be, because in all liklihood their people would have voted communist on their own,

Bull. The people of South Vietnam had already voted, with their feet, when the country was partitioned/invented in the first place. Had they wanted to live under communist rule, they could have - by going to the country which was placed under the dictatorship of Ho Chih Minh by Westerners. But in point of fact, they overwhelmingly chose to go south by a factor of 10-to-1.

Your asinine assertion that the South Vietnamese "would have voted communist" can only be true if you take into account the following: terrorist raids from the North against the South, murders of those who disagreed with communism, and a general fear inflicted on the population by the communist. Sure, under those conditions, maybe Minh could've gotten a 99.6% vote out of the South. Kinda like how the Iraqis are solidly behind Saddam right now, eh?

something they had a right to do

It is nonsensical to speak of the "rights" of South Vietnamese people if you ignore the terror and mass murder which was inflicted on them at the same time. Scenario: communists wipe out 90% of the males of a village, burn things, kill anyone who contributes to prosperity, make it known that a vote against the communists makes one an "enemy of the people" and fodder for slaughter. Then the shaking, quaking, terrorized, traumatized remaining peasants go up to the ballot with one name written on it (Minh) and you smile proudly, with glee declaring "they are exercising their rights! They have a right to vote for the communists you see. Isn't it beautiful?"

Who are you, Jimmy Carter?

We didn't give it our best shot and got even more of our folks killed. [...] And the commies took over anyway.

Exactly. Which is why we should have given it our best shot, instead. I'm glad we agree.

only one small criticism: they would voted for Ho Chi Minh, for sure, as Ike recognized when he remarked: "We couldn't let the vote take place [as promised] because Ho would in hands down, and we can't let a Communist win". There is some error in memory here, but the statement is basically accurate. The US denies the Vietnamese people an election as promised, and we end up slaughtering them by the millions. I doubt if the people in Vietnam were truly Communist. My assessment is they were nationalists who wanted their country back and if being Commie got help in doing this, so be it. The US foreign policy is, even today, stupid.