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Vietnam was a Noble Cause
rocky mountian rattlesnake press | 28oct02 | Darren Morrison

Posted on 10/28/2002 4:47:19 PM PST by RMrattlesnake

Vietnam was a Noble Cause

By Darren Morrison

I have heard for years how the Vietnam war was only political, that we had no business there. Collage professors and aging hippies think they won the day. But they bring discredit to the veterans who fought that war. I want people to know that Vietnam was a noble cause. I want our Vietnam veterans to know that their efforts were not in vain, to shed light on some truth that some tried to put away in darkness; to not only bring healing but honor to those great men and some woman of the Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines and Coast Guard and honor to those names on the wall, that they did not die for nothing.

I was very young during the Vietnam war. In fact I was in 2nd grade during the fall of Saigon. But as I grew into a young man I began to hear more and more about the war in Vietnam. I was told by a hool teacher who were more likely of those who shamed our vets, that this was an unjust war. When I was in high school the movie Hair came out. Hair was a movie that glorified the hippies and anti-war movement. To my own discredit that movie had an influence on me. I began to listen to the Beatles and the Grateful Dead and other music of that era. I yearned to be like them and started using drugs and then ran away from home at 17 ending up in Florida and my so called hippie friend left me there as he went on to somewhere else. Well that was a shattering experience and I went back home. I took my headband bandana off and I joined the Army National Guard.

There in the National Guard I was in a unit that had Vietnam and Korean war vets in it at the time. I got to hear some of their stories. Not once did any of them say that their emery was kind. I heard about the dirty warfare these Viet Cong did. I heard real horror stories and it was not anything like the hippie explained. These guys were there. They were in the muck. The hippies were not there. So why were the hippies so concerned with the Viet Cong? Why did they care about the welfare of them but not our boys? They called our guys killers of women and children when the Vietcong were using women and children to kill our boys.

Well nobody ever says that World War Two was in vain. Nobody would dare say how bad it was to kill Nazi’s. We know what that National Socialists did over there don’t we. Some of us have heard how cruel the Japanese were to the Chinese and how they forced thousands of Okinawins over cliffs. We know about the concentration camps. Yes we know how many boys gave it there all on Normandy and Iwo Jima. There is no doubt in any Americans mind that what we did in World War Two was worth it. We helped to rid the world of an evil. Yes World War Two was a noble cause.

Then Korea and Vietnam were noble causes as well. The evil we were fighting over there was even more evil than the national socialist party. This is a more sinister version of Marxism called communism. Korea was both backed and supplied by Red China. Make no mistake we were fighting China over there as well. China was more visible in Korea but their presence was known about in Vietnam as well. In many ways The communist party makes the National Socialist party look like boy scouts. They are just different brands of Marxism applied differently. Communists are ruthless GOD haters. They kill Christians and anyone with a belief in GOD. Just look at Cambodia with Pol-Pot and his killing fields. These were the same tyrants America was fighting in Vietnam.

The Viet Cong killed any one who would not go along with their program. They claimed they were liberating the poor but what they really did was enslave them. You see the poor had no more food on their table after communism than before. Communists are GOD haters so there is no reason for them to tell the truth. The way Viet Cong treated their prisoners was inhuman. Even the Germans and Japanese were not that cruel. They way our boys were treated in North Vietnamese prison camps was cause enough to never trade with that county until that generation is dead. They even kept prisoners long after the war. In fact there is a possibility that there are still POW’s over there to this day.

Viet Cong forced children strapped with explosives to go up to Americans then blow up killing themselves and the American and any one else near the blast. Communists don’t believe in GOD so people are used as cattle. They used woman to fight their battles as well. They would inject their troops with opiates so they could get shot and keep on going. There was no since of humanity among theses tyrants of death.

So if we compare Hitler’s National Socialism to Communism we will find that though Hitler was evil and horrible Communism is even worse. Remember the Tiananmen Square. When the people who communism was supposed to represent stood up for their rights they were killed like vermin. The streets of Tiananmen ran red with blood. If we think that Muslims invested terrorism I say they learned it from the communists. V.I. Lenin said with terror we will win the world to communism. Communism has caused the deaths of 150 million people. What a deadly ideology. The Catholics in there rampages could come close. Muslims have a lot of catching up to do to even come close to the death toll of communism.

After we left Vietnam They started rounding up all the critics of communism; Doctors, Lawyers, and school teachers. Anyone who had spoken out against communism, Chairman Moa or their brutal tactics were sent away for years to re-education camps where they were beaten and tortured having fingers cut off and given very little food. If they survived they were released and given the most menial jobs. Like highly skilled surgeons made to be cab drivers. Then all churches and Buddhist temples were burned to the ground. All bibles and other books of freedom and religion were burned. And you thought the left never burnt books. The poor farmer was now even poorer, because as always redistribution of the wealth is really and always redistribution of poverty.

Vietnam today is not picnic either, even though Bill Clinton has opened it to American trade. Vietnam was virtually living in the "dark-ages." Its state-owned enterprises were losing money, food was rationed, and shoes needed to be rationed. For the Vietnam Communist Party , not enough reform creates social instability that would challenge its legitimacy, but too much reform can do the same. Thus, the Vietnam Communist Party has made, unmade, and remade reforms since the mid-1980s in order to control social instability. Their system of communism never works except for the elite running things there. They want to keep living their life of luxury, just like the pigs in Animal farm. That is what Vietnam is, Animal farm If you have not read that book I encourage you to read it.

That is why Vietnam was a noble cause. They were fighting one of the most evil and dark forces in the world. We had the men and the machines to win that war. But there were too many communists here in the states. We did not lose the war. We were not allowed to slay the evil communist dragon because it’s tail was already here in America.

Yes there were Communists in our government already, despite McCarthy’s efforts. But there were even more communists out in the streets and in the college classrooms. All the major Hippy and Vietnam war protest groups were headed by communists. Yes there were not concerned for the outcome of the war or the innocent civilians but instead for their fallen comrades. I work at Colorado State University and I know for a fact that there are professors here that are hard line Stalinist communists, here in middle America. The 60’s drug culture, hippie movement was a front for communist subversives. Most of the hippies were nothing more than useful idiots for the Marxists who ran things behind the scenes.

So this goes out to all that fought in Vietnam and in Korea. You fought for a good cause and don’t let any one say anything different. Fighting the dirty evil communist is noble


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To: ALOHA RONNIE; Joy Angela
"PRAY, PREPARE, VOTE on Nov. 5th like the future of our country depends on it...'cause it does."

See that, Joy?
Sgt Ron knows, alright.
He sure does; as, he's very rarely wrong, y'know.

...so now you've heard it from us both.

81 posted on 11/01/2002 7:01:30 AM PST by Landru
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Ping. Today we hear that coffee increases memory retention in seniors, tomorrow - fried food as cure for heart disease? Mmmmm...egg rolls and tempura. (^:
82 posted on 11/01/2002 5:50:31 PM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: Dr. Frank; All
NEVER FORGET

See.. www.Newsmax.com ..Thread titled:


..WE are ALL SOLIDERS Now..

http://Newsmax.com/ubb/Forum13/HTML/001803.html


for after the Attacks of September 11, 2001...

...WE ALL are.


NEVER FORGET
83 posted on 11/02/2002 3:22:09 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: Dr. Frank; All
.."WE WERE SOLDIERS".. Actor DON DUONG Story =

Vietnamese officials considering punishment for actor in U.S. film ["We Were Soldiers"]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/753996/posts
84 posted on 11/03/2002 1:07:05 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: belmont_mark
you really want to hurt people don't you?
85 posted on 12/11/2002 4:19:28 AM PST by Aging Hippy
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To: belmont_mark
you really want to hurt people don't you?
86 posted on 12/11/2002 4:19:31 AM PST by Aging Hippy
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To: Intolerant in NJ
wow, I didn't know death and destruction was so cool!
87 posted on 12/11/2002 4:21:14 AM PST by Aging Hippy
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
wow, you found a lying politician in old Uncle Ho. Hey, this is just like America, isn't it great?
88 posted on 12/11/2002 4:25:42 AM PST by Aging Hippy
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To: breakem
if you keep talking like this you are going to be branded as a long haired hippy freak, probably aging.
89 posted on 12/11/2002 4:27:56 AM PST by Aging Hippy
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To: breakem
only one small criticism: they would voted for Ho Chi Minh, for sure, as Ike recognized when he remarked: "We couldn't let the vote take place [as promised] because Ho would in hands down, and we can't let a Communist win". There is some error in memory here, but the statement is basically accurate. The US denies the Vietnamese people an election as promised, and we end up slaughtering them by the millions. I doubt if the people in Vietnam were truly Communist. My assessment is they were nationalists who wanted their country back and if being Commie got help in doing this, so be it. The US foreign policy is, even today, stupid.
90 posted on 12/11/2002 4:33:25 AM PST by Aging Hippy
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To: Aging Hippy; rightwing2; Orion78; JanL
My objective is to either stop or minimize the deaths of millions, perhaps billions of people in the coming war between great powers. The current appeasing, liberal, disproven, ineffectual paradigm, which has resulted in gradual positioning of the enemies of Western civilization for their attack, rape and destruction of us all, must be stopped. Apparently, you are part of those subsribing to this paradigm. I pity you, for it is the philistines and libertines who suffer the most when the world goes to war and their little fantasy worlds are shattered to pieces.
91 posted on 12/11/2002 10:21:59 AM PST by GOP_1900AD
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To: Aging Hippy; belmont_mark; Scholastic; SLB; Sawdring; IronJack; DoughtyOne
I doubt if the people in Vietnam were truly Communist. My assessment is they were nationalists who wanted their country back and if being Commie got help in doing this, so be it. The US foreign policy is, even today, stupid.

US foreign policy IS stupid today, but not even close for the reasons that you imagine. US foreign policy today suffers from turning a blind eye to the threat posed by Communist tyrants, by providing them with trade, aid and credibility they don't deserve and ultimately by default being overly pro-Communist, not anti-Communist. You are very mistaken regarding the Vietnam war. The Vietnam war was a just war for America though we may have fought it unjustly by indiscriminately targeting enemy civilians. It would have been better off if we had limited our assistance to democratic South Vietnam to military advisors. As it was our involvement only slowed the murderous Communist onslaught and enslavement of all innocent Vietnamese who lived in both the north and the south.
92 posted on 12/11/2002 11:59:13 AM PST by rightwing2
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To: RMrattlesnake
Re: Vietnam was a Noble Cause

Name one other nation in all the history of the world that gave some 55,000 of her sons & daughters (Plus six of the finest men I ever had the pleasure to serve under or to command.) to free the peoples of another country like we did in Nam?

93 posted on 12/11/2002 12:04:27 PM PST by sonofatpatcher2
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To: Aging Hippy
I forget my comments after a couple fo weeks. I hope I can tell the same lie twice, if so, I can get a government job. Best wishes.
94 posted on 12/11/2002 2:55:22 PM PST by breakem
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To: RMrattlesnake
bttt
95 posted on 04/02/2003 9:36:29 AM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: RMrattlesnake
Vietnam was a Noble Cause

Just talk to any Vietnamese folks in "Little Saigon" in Orange County, California.
Especially if they (or someone they know/knew) got a free stay in one of the
"re-education" camps.
96 posted on 04/02/2003 9:41:15 AM PST by VOA
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To: RMrattlesnake
People look at you weird when you say Vietnam was a very important stumbling block thrown in front of communist advances.

The so-called prevailing wisdom (that comes from hearing the same rhetoric, usually from liberals and the left) is so subconciously embedded, when you say something contrary to it, people look at you like you have two heads.

I happen to agree that VietNam was important, not only for stopping the dominoes, and eventually turning the dominoes back in on communism.

It taught us a lot, not only about war tactics, but about the motivations of the press and the protestors.
97 posted on 04/02/2003 9:47:48 AM PST by P.O.E. (God Bless and keep safe our troops.)
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