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Wisconsin student attacked because of non-PC interpretation of inner city beating death
The Observer ^ | 10/24/02 | Dan Hubert

Posted on 10/28/2002 3:10:54 PM PST by jmcadams

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To: RobRoy
Simply put, it's not really race. It's culture.

Not to get too off-topic here, but I've found that culture will trump race every time.

When I was in Africa as part of a missionary outreach program, some members of our group were American blacks, who'd expressed an interest in "getting in touch with their roots". We thought this was a very reasonable and understandable desire on their part, so we didn't feel snubbed at all when they spent the majority of their free time socializing with the African locals.

I noticed, though, that as time went on, the American blacks began to spend less and less time with the African blacks and more and more time with American whites, because they had so much more in common with their fellow Americans. They'd found that they just couldn't talk about football, politics, movies, cars, etc. with the Africans without receiving a blank stare.

Though, the American blacks did love and respect their newfound African friends, had an invaluable experience, and learned a great deal about their African roots; I think that even more so they came away with an understanding that their deepest roots were American.

61 posted on 10/29/2002 8:20:53 AM PST by schmelvin
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To: jmcadams
A political science student, Hubert, who is white, said he fears the incident has spoiled his chances at running for public office someday.
"I know I'm going to be branded a racist," he said. "I am not a racist."

What he said int he column should not have hurt his political chances. The pathetic whine in the second line above would keep me from ever voting for him.

62 posted on 10/29/2002 8:32:54 AM PST by montag813
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To: LouD
Again, I was not responding to the article but to the post (now deleted) which generalized about all blacks. The truth is crystal clear: most blacks are in the middle class. Why do some folks want to overlook that fact?
64 posted on 10/29/2002 10:08:37 AM PST by Austin Willard Wright
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To: Siouxz
Re your # 35....Actually, if we're completely honest about it, it is obvious that your statements (concerning capability differences in the races)are generally true..

I think a lifetime of fair observation for honest people will confirm that there are inherent physical and intellectual differences between the races...on balance and on average. This is not to say that there are people in any given race who are superior intellectually than you or I.

The important thing is that all people should have a truly equal opportunity to compete for advancment and success in any part of life.....Reverse discrimination, quotas, affirmative action, government handouts based on race, dumming down public education so that the dullest can get a diploma , or other contrived help to assist the less capable to advance on the shoulders of the more capable is what is ruining this country.

And a pleasnat afternoon to you...

65 posted on 10/29/2002 11:30:35 AM PST by rmvh
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To: BureaucratusMaximus
But lets face the facts...government welfare has proven itself to be a failure; it destroys work ethic in people who are fully capable to fend for themselves, increases tax burden, increases crime, and builds dependance on the gov and politicians supporting a progressive welfare state.

I wholeheartedly agree. The time is long past due for Welfare to evolve into Workfare. This is happening in Wisconsin. With W2, at least the taxpayers get something for their money; vacant lots raked, snow shoveled in the winter, etc. Complaints regarding the menial aspect of some of the labor are countered with incentives and opportunities to improve skillsets necessary to survive on the "outside". The naysayers prattle on about the bureaucratic inefficiency of it all, to which I vehemently disagree. When zero is your baseline, any improvement is big . . .

People ARE becoming successful in removing themselves from the welfare dole. Those success stories are being used as models to further refine and improve the process. Many former recipients, however, have simply left the state for easier pickings elsewhere. I don't mind that one bit . . .

67 posted on 10/29/2002 3:37:43 PM PST by BraveMan
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To: VMI70
I can find no inaccuracies whatsoever in this piece.

I can- look at this quote from the article: "It's simply true that black men participate in "hit and runs." (You know what I mean.)"

The author phrased this inaccurately- it doesn't describe my Black father or most of the Black fathers I know.

68 posted on 10/29/2002 6:56:08 PM PST by mafree
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To: The Ghost of Richard Nixon
You are right.
69 posted on 10/29/2002 7:02:24 PM PST by mafree
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To: RWG
I am indeed John McAdams. I would say *the* John McAdams, but I'm sure there are others. I teach at Marquette University.
70 posted on 10/31/2002 3:38:05 PM PST by jmcadams
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To: jmcadams
Yes, I am Spartacus.
71 posted on 10/31/2002 4:31:39 PM PST by RWG
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