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Wisconsin student attacked because of non-PC interpretation of inner city beating death
The Observer ^ | 10/24/02 | Dan Hubert

Posted on 10/28/2002 3:10:54 PM PST by jmcadams

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1 posted on 10/28/2002 3:10:55 PM PST by jmcadams
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To: jmcadams
"Who is gunning down black people in Milwaukee? Who is holding the black community in Milwaukee down?" he continues. "The answer is simple: black people."

Well, duh! So what else is new? It's not like the folks living in the community don't know. Its just the liberal leftists on campus that are SHOCKED, just SHOCKED, that anyone would say this.

2 posted on 10/28/2002 3:19:29 PM PST by dark_lord
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To: jmcadams
As a style, baggy and loose fitting clothing has always been associated with the derelicts and bohemians of society. Hobos, transients, and the homeless are usually portrayed as having baggy clothing.

I knew a man, Bojangles and he danced for you
In worn out shoes
Silver hair, a ragged shirt and baggy pants
The old soft shoe
He jumped so high
He jumped sp high
Then he'd lightly touch down
I met him in a cell in New Orleans, I was
Down and out
He looked to me to be the eyes of age
As he spoke right out
He talked of life
He talked of life
He laughed, clicked his heels and stepped
He said his name, Bojangles and he danced a lick
Across the cell
He grabbed his pants, a better stance
Oh, he jumped so high
Then he clicked his heels
He let go a laugh
He let go a laugh
Pushed back his clothes all around
Mr. Bojangles
Mr. Bojangles
Mr. Bojangles
Dance
He danced for those in minstrel shows and county fairs
Throughout the south
He spoke with tears of fifteen years how his dog and him
Traveled about
The dog up and died
He up and died
After twenty years he still grieves
He said I dance now at every chance in honky tonks
For drinks and tips
But most the time I spend behind these county bars
He said I drinks a bit
He shook his head
And as he shook his head
I heard someone ask him please
Please
Mr. Bojangles
Mr. Bojangles
Mr. Bojangles
Dance

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3 posted on 10/28/2002 3:26:17 PM PST by JCG
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To: rosebud
Peddle this nonsense somewhere else. The vast majority of blacks are members of the middle class and worked hard for that status.
5 posted on 10/28/2002 3:36:20 PM PST by Austin Willard Wright
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To: jmcadams
So, 6% of the folks on this campus are offended by the truth. These 6% nearly rule America today.

The article says that 5% of the population on campus are black. Perhaps 20% of them are offended. Then, there have to be about 5% of the rest of the students who think they are offended, too.

I'd say that perhaps 20% of the UW population agree with the writer, but are afraid to say so, while the other 74% don't care and just wish everybody would shut up so they don't have to take any more multicultural and sensitivity courses.
6 posted on 10/28/2002 3:45:08 PM PST by jimtorr
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To: mhking
If I thought I could legitimately apologize for the offensive rantings of this purile UMC white punk on dope, I would do so in a heartbeat. If my own son wrote this, I'd surely kick his ass.

I'm certain this momma's boy has never lived an uncomfortable day in his life.

I refuse to root through this pile of excrement searching for any pearl of wisdom. It just wouldn't be worth it . . .

7 posted on 10/28/2002 3:53:56 PM PST by BraveMan
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To: jmcadams
I can find no inaccuracies whatsoever in this piece.

I guess the truth hurts.
8 posted on 10/28/2002 4:09:27 PM PST by VMI70
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9 posted on 10/28/2002 4:11:39 PM PST by Free the USA
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To: JCG
That was - and still is - a great tune.

LVM

10 posted on 10/28/2002 4:21:18 PM PST by LasVegasMac
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To: Austin Willard Wright
"The vast majority of blacks are members of the middle class and worked hard for that status."

True, but one in five still lives under the poverty line and a good number of that strata live in the part of Milwaukee where Mr. Young was beaten to death. The city has been remiss in policing and providing services such as trash pick up and street light replacement (when shot out by the drug dealers who prefer darker corners).

This column was written in haste by the young author and the college is addressing it by telling him to take a diversity class (formerly called "reeducation" in the USSR, People's Rep. of China & Vietnam). Our educators learn well from the socialist states.
11 posted on 10/28/2002 4:30:42 PM PST by RicocheT
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To: VMI70; BraveMan
Maybe this guy reads Fredoneverything.net and just can't articulate as well. I agree with pretty much everything this kid said. I don't consider myself a racist but, rather, a culturist. Baggy pants are not a race issue, they are a culture issue.

And is one culture is overwelmingly supported by one race? Well, that's not the issue. I calls 'em as I sees 'em and let the chips fall where they may - as this young writer did. It was a pretty good article.
12 posted on 10/28/2002 4:32:28 PM PST by RobRoy
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To: BraveMan
I trust, then, we can count you in that 5% column.

LVM

13 posted on 10/28/2002 4:32:53 PM PST by LasVegasMac
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To: jmcadams
Two observations: 1) a) In his column, which appears on the Observer editorial page, Hubert calls the suspects "monsters" and adds that "no federally funded after-school basketball program could have prevented this."

I agree with the first part of the statement but fed $$ do help, sometimes.

b) He also cites a "baggy pants" clothing style "associated with the derelicts and bohemians of society," and he charges that unwed fathers and mothers living on welfare make poor role models for children.

First part of the statement is out there. Clothing can sometimes be associated with group behaviour - gang colors, etc., but to claim that baggy pants is associated with the dregs of society is absurd.

Second part of the statement is spot on. I'm know there are legitimate cases of welfare but, lets face it - welfare has become a way of life in the inner city. The Dad leaves and Mom keeps hatching kids. Why does Mom keep having kids when she does not have a job to pay for it. Why is that?

c) "Who is gunning down black people in Milwaukee? Who is holding the black community in Milwaukee down?" he continues. "The answer is simple: black people."

Again, on the money. According to the media and the PC crowd, anything that happens / anyone that dies, you name it, in the inner city - is the "non-minority's" group (just to be PC) fault.

2) "The purpose of the institution is to combat ignorance," Stewart said. "We'll find a seat in the class for him."

And when a minority group member makes an ignorant statement about the "non-minority" group -- you best be finding a seat for them as well.

"I was offended. I was appalled. I was shocked," said Milwaukee freshman Christen Lake, who is black.

I'm wondering what part offended, appalled, shocked this person?

If it was the "baggy pants" part, ummm..ok.

Anything else and I say you were offended, appalled, shocked because the truth hit ya 'tween the eyes and you, like most folks, hate the truth.

I'm glad the kid said what he said. He was wrong on parts of it - so what. Apology offered. It is high time to combat this little notion that if anyone disagrees with a minority group, they are labled a racist. But they can say anything they damn well please? No.

LVM

14 posted on 10/28/2002 5:08:09 PM PST by LasVegasMac
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To: RobRoy
As a single guy, succesful, in my '40's, I date women who very often have kids.

I ask them upfront, if any of their kids wear their shorts outside their jeans. If they do, I run.

I visit my sister and her adopted sons regularly. Her husband is a cop, great guy. When they, as teens, started wearing the boxers outside, I did the same. Around them.

I pulled them all the way to my armpits, and went that way in public with them. They were mortified. But couldn't say anything.

They don't do it now.
15 posted on 10/28/2002 5:09:32 PM PST by MonroeDNA
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To: jmcadams
This guy is dead-on, although he will get crucified.

Out of the mouths of children and drunks.
16 posted on 10/28/2002 5:11:01 PM PST by MonroeDNA
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To: jmcadams
my gosh! Shouldn't he be sent to re-education camp for a couple of years? Freedom of Speech for the Correct People!

Nuts!

18 posted on 10/28/2002 5:52:19 PM PST by Eternal_Bear
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To: RobRoy
I'm not too fond of the idea of being the Racial Apologist du jour. Seems plastic to me. It would appear, however, I've taken upon that mantle today, so perhaps I should attempt to clarify my position at the risk of stepping in it further . . .

The things our budding columnist said in this article were stated with malice and an intent to offend; that's my take on the piece, anyway. To wit:

Evil, baby-killing, African-American-oppressing Caucasion male Republicans believe in something called "personal responsibility" and have some esoteric view of so-called "morality." (Message to Republicans: don't impose your upper-class morality on the same people you oppress.)

Who is this line intended for, and what is it's purpose, except to offend? I believe in something called personal responsibility. I also stridently believe in a concept called morality. Ergo, by association, I am an evil, baby-killing, African-American-oppressing male Republican who imposes my esoteric morality upon those I opress? I guess it's time for me to shoot myself, for the greater good . . .

As a style, baggy and loose fitting clothing has always been associated with the derelicts and bohemians of society. Hobos, transients, and the homeless are usually portrayed as having baggy clothing. Jesters and clowns are also associated with exaggerated clothing. Clowns wear larger than normal shoes and baggier than normal pants.

By this canard, someone wearing loose, comfortable clothing somehow transforms themselves into a menace to society. I didn't realize how dangerous I'd become while raking the yard . . .

Answer these questions: who is selling cocaine to black people in Milwaukee? Who is gunning down black people in Milwaukee? Who is holding the black community in Milwaukee down? Who keeps on getting black females pregnant, and then leave the woman and the child? Who can solve the current crisis in the black community? The answer is simple: black people

Our worldly-wise freshman is painting with a broad brush here; hell, he is using a Wagner Power Painter set on stun. This seems to stated in such a fashion as to maximize offense (maybe I'm reading into things here, I don't know) . . .

It's simply true that black men participate in "hit and runs." (You know what I mean.) It really isn't the children's fault that they were hanging out on a street corner with a gang of other social misfits and drug dealers.

Again, the black man doesn't have exclusive rights to this behaviour; I've known my fair share of white men who also engage in this type of reprehensible conduct . . .

Stop the welfare payments and you'll end the madness.

Patently untrue. Simplisticly naive. Summarily pulling the plug on welfare will do nothing but exacerbate the situation. The welfare engrained sense of entitlement will only be shifted to the end of a gun. A reasonable person cannot be expected to believe in some magic, overnight miracle cure. We must face reality; what has been a default way of life for some for at least two generations cannot simply be wished away. Welfare reform? Yes! Welfare elimination? Recipe for disaster . . .

This article is simply an attempt to quench a fire by dousing it with volatiles. Even if you agree with many of its precipts (and yes, I do), really the purpose served here is to infuriate and inflame . . .

19 posted on 10/28/2002 5:58:40 PM PST by BraveMan
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To: LasVegasMac
Please see the above post . . .
20 posted on 10/28/2002 5:59:36 PM PST by BraveMan
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