To: sparkomatic
I was trained as a unit armorer while with 1Bn 52nd Inf. Learned there that it is acceptable for a M16 to be as much as a 5 MOA after 2000 rds. Considering the weapon actually rattles when shacken, I would say that your assessment of 2 MOA is kind.
My turn to brag:
My Remmington 700 VS (Varmit Synthetic - closest thing to the M24 on the civilan market) came with 1/2 MOA out of the box and I have since tuned it to 1/10 MOA from bench. I have to shoot at 200 yards to be able to make an accurate measure of the MOA.
The down side is that it leaves me no excuse when I miss 'cause the rifle is far more accurate than I'll ever be.
For those that think my claims to be unrealistic, or those that wish to "tune" their rifle, I highly recommend the following product:
http://rifle-accuracy.com/
While I was not able to acheive the .08 MOA in the product advertisements, It did greatly improved the accuracy of my gun. I had it installed in the above mentioned Rem 700 in .308 and it is now a true tack driver.
To: taxcontrol
5 MOA? Holy Cow. It's a wonder that someone with that weapon could even qualify. That equates to more than 15 MOA at 300meters.
How, when and where does the army do this? I wasn't even aware that they checked the rifles this closely.
If you can really shoot .10 MOA my question is why? Are you trying to make eyeball shots on prairie dogs at 1000 yards?
To: taxcontrol
I was trained as a unit armorer while with 1Bn 52nd Inf. Learned there that it is acceptable for a M16 to be as much as a 5 MOA after 2000 rds. Considering the weapon actually rattles when shacken, I would say that your assessment of 2 MOA is kind.A new, just-out-of-the-box M16A2 will turn in 1 MOA (5-inch groups at 500 yards).
I don't think the USMC accepts 5 MOA, because that translates into a 25 inch CEP at 500 yards, and the (expletive deleted) black on the Modified Baker target is only about 18 inches wide.
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10/28/2002 2:06:21 PM PST by
Poohbah
To: taxcontrol
Thanks you for that product recommendation! It looks like it is worth a try.
To: taxcontrol
I have a Remington 700 Police special in .308. It is far more the rifle than I am a shooter and at anything under 300 yards it makes me look good. I even got a coyote at 400 yards. I have no idea what the minute of angle is in this thing but it is small in comparison to all my other rifles.
I qualified on a Navy Range north of the NCBC in Gulfport with the M-16 and .45 1911 pistol. I made the expert marksman grade. It was almost too easy. I was accused of being from some other branch of the service other than the USAF.
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