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To: dirtboy
You slander JimRob in his own house, and then wonder why he doesn't want to associate with the more fringe elements of the immigration debate? I'm against illegal immigration, and several posters on FR have helped me shift my positions on the matter with reasoned debate. But I have no desire to associate with the elements of anti-Mexican bigotry that unfortunately are part of the movement.

I think the poster was just joking and used that as a way to get his message across.

Even though this was not posted to me, I feel compelled to say something.

There are fringe elements all over this forum that call for the annihilation of all Muslims and all those that believe in Islam etc etc.....There are fringe elements in all groups. That's just the way it is. What does one do? Ban or censor everything? Should other sites ban anything regarding the Free Republic because of differing opinions or fringe thoughts

Just to clear things up a little, about six months ago, Jim Robinson told me himself, "Immigration is no big concern of mine". That's right, the illegal alien crises, the invasion of millions of criminals, and the destruction of our sovereignty is not a big deal, according to Jim.

My big question is, why would the American Patrol article's be banned or censored on this forum? I thought this was a joke at first.

This is one of the very few, well known sites on the internet that address this ever escalating crises! That site is also hated by liberals, communist, socialist, globalist, the open borders crowd and most other America haters.

109 posted on 10/29/2002 9:05:54 AM PST by Joe Hadenuf
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To: Joe Hadenuf
I think the poster was just joking and used that as a way to get his message across.

I think the poster is a tin-foil idiot, but that's a separate issue.

Even though this was not posted to me, I feel compelled to say something. There are fringe elements all over this forum that call for the annihilation of all Muslims and all those that believe in Islam etc etc.....There are fringe elements in all groups. That's just the way it is. What does one do? Ban or censor everything? Should other sites ban anything regarding the Free Republic because of differing opinions or fringe thoughts.

Folks who call for the annihilation of all Muslims get their posts yanked. You are more concerned with freedom of speech - but there is another fundamental Constitutional right, namely freedom of association, that is at play here - the same right that SCOTUS cited to allow the Boy Scouts to deny gays membership. Likewise, JimRob does not want to associate with bigotry and violence posts - so he boots them from the forum, and, if the posters persist, they get drop-kicked as well. They are perfectly free to go find somewhere else on the web to promote their views, just as gays are perfectly free to start their own scouting club.

Just to clear things up a little, about six months ago, Jim Robinson told me himself, "Immigration is no big concern of mine". That's right, the illegal alien crises, the invasion of millions of criminals, and the destruction of our sovereignty is not a big deal, according to Jim.

But there are articles posted on FR every day about the topic, and there is plenty of robust debate to go with them. We all have our own perceptions of what matters, but JimRob is hardly prohibiting debate on immigration matters at FR.

My big question is, why would the American Patrol article's be banned or censored on this forum? I thought this was a joke at first. This is one of the very few, well known sites on the internet that address this ever escalating crises! That site is also hated by liberals, communist, socialist, globalist, the open borders crowd and most other America haters.

And they also get the occasional commentary about how inferior Mexicans are - that's the problem, and that's why their articles are not allowed here. If you want them to be allowed on FR, instead of complaining to JimRob, maybe you could approach American Patrol and ask them to curtail such articles.

110 posted on 10/29/2002 9:12:57 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: Joe Hadenuf
I think the poster was just joking and used that as a way to get his message across.

Close; but not quite on the mark. But I think there's little doubt that Free Republic will be dismissed as a place for serious considerations of serious matters for just such reasons, particularly if the policy now is to cover up governmental wrongdoings, abuses and corruption when Republicans are involved or implicated. JimRob swore, in court and while under oath, that FR was more, better than that:

A fundamental purpose for the existance of the freerepublic.com website is clearly the exercise of the First Amendment rights of users of the site [34] The sample posts contained in (ER,23) and (ER,24) are consistant with Jim Robinson's testimony that the purpose of Free Republic is to "expose government corruption and to expose the bias of the liberal media." Robinson Depo, (ER,9,43:8-19)

See Robinson Depo[sition] (ER,9 433-434, and see (ER,23) and (ER,24).

-archy-/-

157 posted on 10/29/2002 11:49:25 AM PST by archy
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