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CAN DEMOCRATS BE GOOD PEOPLE
Augusta Chronicle ^ | October 26, 2002 | Lon Purvis

Posted on 10/27/2002 5:12:00 PM PST by FryingPan101

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To: FryingPan101
The Christmas movie "It's a Wonderful Life" introduced us to the saying..."Every time a bell rings an angel gets his wings". The ways of Democrats have often brought to my mind a perverse counterpart to that saying...

"Every time a child is murdered a Democrat has an orgasm."

That is my opinion of Democrats, based on repeated observation and experience over more than 40 years.

41 posted on 10/27/2002 6:34:20 PM PST by The Duke
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To: Irene Adler
Those things office seekers aim for today are the "Goods" of eating, drinking, copulating, evacuating and snoring. All maintained on a "First Class" level and at taxpayers expense.
42 posted on 10/27/2002 6:41:43 PM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS
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To: Notwithstanding
Wellstone, etc. as good guys ping
43 posted on 10/27/2002 6:52:11 PM PST by fatguy
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To: FryingPan101
Yes, they can. Unfortunately, way too many of them have come under the spell of the Sinkmaster. To defend him, they gave up all logic and decency. During the Sinkmaster's 8 years, I lost several friends who are DemocRATS. They defended the indefensible, and I could no longer respect them.
44 posted on 10/27/2002 6:57:58 PM PST by doug from upland
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To: FryingPan101
I've given this issue a lot of thought. I marvel that intelligent people can be so blinded to the evil within their party. The abortion issue and esp. partial birth abortion are litmus tests to insure that only those individuals who have given themselves over to evil can rise to prominance in the party.

The allegience to evil is to only explanation the explains why organizations like NOW never called Clinton or Ted Kennedy to task. It is the only reason to explain the presses advocacy of all things Democrat. If the Democrat controlled institutions were all linked telepathically they could not be more of one mind. At the very root of it is the throwing off of sexual morality.

Rank and file democrat voters are just fools for the most part
45 posted on 10/27/2002 7:02:56 PM PST by UnChained
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To: LiberalBuster; All
Nazis had children and cared about their children's future. Mob bosses and drug dealers can love their families. It doesn't make being a Nazi, OK. It doesn't make organized crime acceptable, and it's doesn't make the democrat totalitarian tactics acceptable.

There's a difference between organizations and individuals

Consider this. Democrats have families too. Does anyone seriously believe they don't care about the future of their children? Yes, they may have a different vision of how to make that future better. But, that doesn't make them evil.

46 posted on 10/27/2002 7:23:55 PM PST by GOPJ
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To: LiberalBuster; All
Nazis' had children and cared about their children's future. Mob bosses and drug dealers can love their families. It doesn't make being a Nazi, OK. It doesn't make organized crime acceptable, and it's doesn't make the democrat totalitarian tactics acceptable.

There's a difference between organizations and individuals

Consider this. Democrats have families too. Does anyone seriously believe they don't care about the future of their children? Yes, they may have a different vision of how to make that future better. But, that doesn't make them evil.

47 posted on 10/27/2002 7:24:31 PM PST by GOPJ
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To: Asclepius
NO!
48 posted on 10/27/2002 7:26:37 PM PST by Enterprise
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To: FryingPan101
Are there any good DemocRatBastards? Sure...JFK, RFK, FDR, LBJ...get the picture?
49 posted on 10/27/2002 7:29:48 PM PST by kdmhcdcfld
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To: FryingPan101
I dunno. But I'm glad I was brought up conservative GOP. I still get along well with Dems I know who I know are Dems.

foreverfree

50 posted on 10/27/2002 7:33:58 PM PST by foreverfree
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To: FryingPan101
Most people who vote the Dem side just don't realize what they are voting for. They see the news, read the paper; but are totally ignorant of the truth since these media outlets don't tell the truth. These are the duped; the sheeple. Forgive them, for they know not what they do.

MARK A SITY
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52 posted on 10/27/2002 7:40:57 PM PST by logic101.net
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To: Asclepius
The leaders of the democrat party and democrat activists are not "good" people in any sense. The dems primarily use fear and hatred to further their political agenda and garner votes. Using such techniques - on going now for over 60 years - places dems in the same category as Stalinists and other tyrants. People in a free society should not have to be lead by fear, but the technique (along with cheating in elections) seems to work well. In a previous post you appeal to the "ignorance is bliss" sentiment and give people who unknowingly support the (evil) agenda of the democrat party a pass. People who have the ability to find the truth, yet reject it or fail to seek it out, are complicit in evil themselves. Unfortunately we are not talking about people who simply disagree with "us" on one position or another - we are talking about people who support the manifestation of evil in the form of socialism.

Is such a comparison of the dems to the evils of world socialsm an exageration? Most people don't even understand that the US is far from a free society - they equate freedom to running down to Walmart and choosing to participate in the latest consumer fad. While you would be able to do that in a free society - such a perspective ignores the prevailing corporatism that governs the US political economy. Corporatism is just another form of socialism, and it's inherently evil because it equates to slavery when one is coerced/forced to pay benefits to others so politicians can buy votes. We pay half of our earned money to the government in taxes, fees, and sur-charges - slaving just half the day to sponsor government socialism still makes us slaves.

Someone who votes for democrats may or may not be evil - as you said, the world is a complicated and muddy place. But many people vote for the democrats because they know where their bread is buttered, and think the dems will provide them with more butter. Such people have little regard for the interests of the country and in this context their progeny. While self-interest is understandable, especially in our culture, there is little good in this approach to politics.

53 posted on 10/27/2002 8:18:41 PM PST by citizenK
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To: Asclepius
Of course you can be good and promote evil--albeit unwittingly, unknowingly, because we never have access to all of the facts, never know all the possible outcomes.

You have changed my question from what I intended. Of course, that may be my fault in not forming it more restrictively.

It is my opinion that many Democrats, especially the present leaders and their consultants and enablers, are purposely doing evil in their quest for ultimate power. I cite the many scandals of the Clintons and their entire adminstration. To list a few, I mean the selling of our nuclear secrets to our enemy, China, for illegal campaign contributions; the purposeful lying under oath before a Federal court deciding the rights of a citizen; the selling of government favors (i.e. seats on trade missions) for campaign contributions; the attempts to thwart the will of the people by stealing an election; the attempt to subvert the Electorial College by encouraging defections in violations of their oaths; .....this list could go on almost idefintely but they generally are trying to subvert our Constitution and illegally change our form of government. To me, that is evil. However, to moral relativists, and you seem to be one, I suppose the discussion of evil is a non-starter as it doesn't exist other than in one's opinion.

This is why we're not supposed to judge, but rather do the best that we can etc. and pray for the best. Right? Right? Right? Of course I am.

Is this the scripture that you relativists hang your hats on, or perhaps more correctly, try to hang our hats on? The logical extention of that is, of course, anarchy. It is one thing to not personally judge another's soul, his inner self, and quite another not to judge his actions. (Hate the sin, but love the sinner.) There must be rules which outline acceptable behavior within a society or concerning interpersonal relationships. Generally those rules are based on moral and/or religious teachings.

This is one of the reasons why the election of God (your God) is such a mystery.

Forgive my unsophisticated mind, but I don't understand that. For all who believe in a God, any God, God is not elected but just is. Perhaps you mean selected instead.

54 posted on 10/28/2002 7:35:55 AM PST by Mind-numbed Robot
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To: kdmhcdcfld
Are there any good DemocRatBastards? Sure...JFK, RFK, FDR, LBJ...get the picture?

All the good ones are buried 12 feet deep....Because down deep they're not that bad.

55 posted on 10/28/2002 7:44:43 AM PST by N. Theknow
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To: fatguy
Great post...

The GOP's legacy shall be thus:

"Shall I bend over a bit more for you, Senator Kennedy? My forehead still hasn't reached the dirt..."

56 posted on 10/28/2002 7:45:37 AM PST by F16Fighter
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To: FryingPan101
It's true, not all Democrats are evil. I enjoy the company of people with opposing views, if they can actually discuss issues without simply running off the DNC mantra. But Bill Clinton is an evil man, and I hope most principled Democrats see that now.
57 posted on 10/28/2002 7:52:45 AM PST by dfwgator
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