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To: hattend
I believe I am right in saying that Jesus said we would not know the hour when the end of the world would come. So I guess we can draw comfort from the idea that so long as people are second guessing Him, that hour won't come. ;)

Regards, Ivan

5 posted on 10/27/2002 2:13:21 PM PST by MadIvan
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To: MadIvan
So I guess we can draw comfort from the idea that so long as people are second guessing Him, that hour won't come. ;)

Or, he'll show up tomorrow and make all the second guessing moot.

7 posted on 10/27/2002 2:19:05 PM PST by hattend
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To: MadIvan
you are correct ... but He commands us to know the season of His Coming ... and that's the important part in talking about the "Signs of the Times" ... now there are general "signs" but no exact day given ...

Matthew 16 KJV
2 He answered and said unto them, When it is evening, ye say, It will be fair weather: for the sky is red.
3 And in the morning, It will be foul weather to day: for the sky is red and lowering. O ye hypocrites, ye can discern the face of the sky; but can ye not discern the signs of the times?


Daniel 12 KJV
4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the Time of the End: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.
11 posted on 10/27/2002 2:29:02 PM PST by Bobby777
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To: MadIvan
I believe I am right in saying that Jesus said we would not know the hour when the end of the world would come. So I guess we can draw comfort from the idea that so long as people are second guessing Him, that hour won't come. ;)

Good one, Ivan! Hope you don't mind if I use your post as a springboard to expound on your excellent point (I'm just in that kind of mood today.)

Well, y’know, this is another one of those “position papers” (for lack of a better phrase) that gets foisted on a nervous public every few months.

It has all the (now classic) elements:

--The end is near because terrible things are happening in the world. When was this not the case?

--A whole laundry-list of “abominations” to make the author’s point.

--Cherry-picked Bible-verses offered as “proof.” (Every quoted Bible verse is taken out of the larger context, because the Bible is a very big book.)

--Hal Lindsey is trotted out again, ostensibly in the hopes that those old enough will have forgotten that we were supposed to have suffered Armageddon years ago.

--The “ancient astronauts” will return.

--Terrorist atrocities will continue (DUH!)

Notice how we capitalize the world "Earth" these days, as the environmental movement and its Mother Earth Gaia worship permeates every aspect of our lives. (We also capitalize “Jupiter.” So what? And “Gaia” gets its greatest publicity from the cartoon “Captain Planet,” brainchild of Ted Turner, a recognized nut-job that even Jane Fonda can’t abide anymore.

Modern Israel has been in a state of perpetual war since its founding in 1948. An earlier doomsayer generation predicted its destruction 30 years later. Hmm. 1978?

Depending on your age, you’ve seen, heard or read again and again of various cultist groups claiming to predict – to the day – when the world will end.

As each predictive group has been proven wrong by the continuous ticking of the clock, they tend to retreat into vapor. (Lindsey now needs the Internet to keep preaching: his 1970’s book-sales are way down.)

Faith is important in this ephemeral world, but until we reach the afterlife (whatever that may be) all we have at our disposal is the human spirit. Personally, I’m a little tired of “spiritual experts” who have been – their noses in the air – haranguing me since childhood to just give it up and believe in them (books now available at Amazon-dot-com.)

The world will end when God decides it should. Not when Hal Lindsey or Anthony C. LoBaido says it should. We can each read a hundred or a thousand books about it, but none of us will be any better able to speak for the Creator than we are right now.

But that’s part of the allure of this stuff, isn’t it? It would feel really good to truly believe that you are privy to divine information that the average schmuck will never be, because he hasn’t read the same books.

“But he can’t be a man

‘Cause he don’t smoke

“The same cigarettes as me.”

Mick Jagger

Satisfaction

20 posted on 10/27/2002 3:03:25 PM PST by ihatemyalarmclock
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To: MadIvan
"No man knows the hour of my coming..."
32 posted on 10/27/2002 3:34:28 PM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS
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