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Poisonous Pastime - The Health Risks of Shooting Ranges.
VPC ^ | May 2001 Violence Policy Center and Environmental Working Group study Poisonous Pastime. | VPC Editorial Study

Posted on 10/27/2002 10:23:35 AM PST by vannrox

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To: 11B3
I live on a range so to speak - step out on the deck and let loose with whatever you've got 24/7/365.

Dude, I want your pad.

Nah, too far north... Texas is a big state-- there's gotta be a clone of your place somewheres in there...

61 posted on 10/27/2002 4:16:39 PM PST by maxwell
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To: vannrox
This was found here They had no statistics on gun range safety but it would be logical to assume that shooting at a range is safer than hunting.

Outdoor Activity- Number of Participants - Annual Injuries - Injuries per 100,000 Participants

Football-------------------- 15,500,000--------------- 424,665----------------- 2,740

Basketball------------------ 28,200,000--------------- 716,182----------------- 2,540

Baseball-------------------- 33,200,000--------------- 404,468----------------- 1,218

Bicycling------------------- 64,500,000--------------- 604,566----------------- 937

Water Skiing---------------- 7,400,000---------------- 16,182------------------ 219

Swimming-------------------- 60,300,000--------------- 130,286----------------- 216

Fishing--------------------- 45,700,000--------------- 78,393------------------ 172

Hunting--------------------- 15,000,000--------------- 1,094------------------- 7

(These statistics were provided by the National Safety Council, Statistics Unit in Chicago for 1994-95. If you are interested in additional numbers, they can be contacted at 1-800-621-7615, extension 7307. The numbers for hunting are from 1995.

62 posted on 10/27/2002 4:26:32 PM PST by TigersEye
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To: cpdiii
I strongly feel that lead isn't an environmental hazard and in no way damages the brain.

I contend that some idiot professor with a federal grant came up with the "lead makes you brain dead" thesis by only TESTING DUMB KIDS! If he had tested the smartest he would have found just as much lead.

We chewed lead for gum durring WW2, food came packaged in lead foil, I started sanding lead on car bodies at the age of 8, have actually consumes a few gallons of leaded gas over the course of 40-50 years, and some of the smartest people of the 19th and 20th century drank all their water out of pure lead pipe.
63 posted on 10/27/2002 4:31:24 PM PST by dalereed
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To: TigersEye
Wow! I just noticed after posting those figures that fishing is over 24 times as dangerous as hunting. Come to think of it I have never snagged myself in the earlobe with a sharp gun. Nor have I fallen in a cold river trying to retreive a hand tied bullet wound around an overhanging branch.
64 posted on 10/27/2002 4:37:14 PM PST by TigersEye
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To: vannrox
But when they talk privately among themselves, they discuss a less savory reality: lead poisoning

They ban steel core ammunition as "cop-killer" and then try to shut down shooting ranges because of lead exposure.

and other types of environmental pollution such as excessive noise,

Silencers and suppressors cost $200 and loss of privacy to own legally, and are a felony illegally. Would the VPC support decriminalizing suppressors?

dangerous novice shooters who barely know what they are doing,

Everyone is a beginner once. How does VPC propose that they learn safe firearms handling?

65 posted on 10/27/2002 4:44:13 PM PST by coloradan
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To: dalereed
Lead does get a lot of bad press. I remember back 30 years ago all the screaming about hollering about childern eating lead paint. I thought the brain damage must be an existing condition if they were eating paint. Anyway, that ended the use of several great pigments. So now were are painting our houses twice as much as necessary.

The plus for lead is that its salts are so insoluble and unreactive they do stay outside the biosystem..

66 posted on 10/27/2002 4:51:20 PM PST by oyez
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To: dansangel
Shall we ***ONLY*** have windowless one-story buildings

We could have windows in the basement. I've never hear of any one falling out of a basement window and getting hurt.

67 posted on 10/27/2002 4:53:45 PM PST by chainsaw
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To: vannrox
Hold muh other banana clip.

Just had a GREAT MORNING in the fresh air poppin' ammo and listenin' to the echo off the hillside.

My buddy's 20 year old daughter went with us, and now knows that using a weapon SAFELY is a hell of a lot of fun. She also knows that she can protect herself.

I haven't had much practice lately, and thoroughly enjoyed the time spent.

Oh yeah. For all of those bleeding heart libs that are trying to protect me from myself; whether I eat right, don't smoke, don't drink, exercise, avoid sugar, fat, paint, asbestos, lead or any other things that are bad for me....I'm gonna die. How and when that happens is between me and God. So, get out of my way.

68 posted on 10/27/2002 4:54:40 PM PST by wizr
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To: vannrox
Josh Sugarman's Next Crusade TM: Ban Those Infernal Gun Ranges!!!
69 posted on 10/27/2002 4:55:31 PM PST by goldstategop
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To: TigersEye
Ain't it fun thought...nearly killing yourself for a 3 dollar lure!
70 posted on 10/27/2002 4:55:36 PM PST by Noslrac
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To: chainsaw
We could have windows in the basement.

LOL!

Please don't give ***them*** any more ideas!!!

71 posted on 10/27/2002 4:56:32 PM PST by dansangel
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To: Noslrac
Though...for the grammar police
72 posted on 10/27/2002 4:56:37 PM PST by Noslrac
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To: dansangel
Unfortunately, the APD range which I get to shoot occasionally is actually quite pathetic, out door
no covered shooting.
And developers have built Condo's right up to the property
line, on a hill over looking the range.
The cost to build a new indoor range is estimated to be over a million dollars, not including the lead clean-up of the old
range.
Guess the new mayor and chief will have some taxing to do to pay for it.

Milsurp shooter Tet68 says,"Got to love those Finns".
73 posted on 10/27/2002 4:59:29 PM PST by tet68
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To: tet68
That's a bummer. The ONLY (and I mean ONLY) advantage to living in a large southern metropolitan area is the abundance of shooting ranges.

The area I came from in FL had none, but the population was only 15,000. I lived a brief time in the Dayton, OH area. There was only one outdoor, uncovered, poor excuse for a range that sounds similar to the one you patronize.
74 posted on 10/27/2002 5:10:10 PM PST by dansangel
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To: TheRedSoxWinThePennant
...and don't forget AMMO DAY, November 19th. Christmas is just around the corner. A cute little derringer for yer one an' only, more shotgun shells fer granny... aaahhh, ain't it a wunnerful season.
75 posted on 10/27/2002 5:11:56 PM PST by wizr
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To: longrider
So you'll know we shoot little .22s, half day for under $10.00

For a bigger kick, you might try one of the 8mm Mausers. I picked one up still in the cosmoline for $89. It costs about the same to shoot as a .22 if you buy belted 8mm machine gun ammo. They kick like a mule and aren't real accurate but cheap to go bang bang with.

76 posted on 10/27/2002 6:14:35 PM PST by SSN558
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To: dansangel
Keep in mind this is the Atlanta Police Department range!
It's really sad, to see our officers not have a range with covered shooting area! Eventually it too will be closed due to encroachment. I mean the only moving target that they had was to pull a target on a clothsline! No popups, no target return, just sad.
77 posted on 10/27/2002 6:20:42 PM PST by tet68
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To: chainsaw
We could have windows in the basement. I've never hear of any one falling out of a basement window and getting hurt.

But someone could get hurt falling into the basement.

78 posted on 10/27/2002 6:36:03 PM PST by MediaMole
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To: BnBlFlag
Hehehehe...You took the words right out of my mouth er-keyboard! Where's that 'Barf Alert'? There are piles of 'poo' all over this article! Gun ownership declining? Highest gun crime? Oh for crying out loud!! I wonder if this poor soul writing this only knew the 'real' truth? After 8 years of Clinton, the 2000 election, 9-11, the sniper attack, there have been more guns bought, and more guns stored and used, more women using, (even liberals!), gays (Pink Pistols), etc... than in the 1950's. There, now have I left anything out? (giggle)
79 posted on 10/27/2002 6:42:55 PM PST by dsutah
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To: 11B3
LOL! I'll loan you the bulldozer. That way you can recycle them...lol!
80 posted on 10/27/2002 7:45:47 PM PST by Madcelt
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