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'If you leave me, I'll kill you and the kids' (Sniper Brother-in-Law's theory)
Tacoma News Tribune ^ | October 26th, 2002 | Rob Carson

Posted on 10/27/2002 3:47:46 AM PST by Sabertooth

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More grist for the mill. This theory is plausible, I suppose, until you go from random killings to murdering an entire family. Once that happened, Muhammad would be Suspect #1. Still, it would fit in with the possible motive for killing the Tacoma woman whose aunt had sided with Muhammad's ex-wife in the custody dispute.

That said, there are still a lot of terror links that need to be checked out.





1 posted on 10/27/2002 3:47:46 AM PST by Sabertooth
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2 posted on 10/27/2002 3:48:57 AM PST by Sabertooth
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To: Sabertooth
Clearly this guy would have killed his ex in a heartbeat out of his blinding rage and desire for vengence. And she is a muslim.
3 posted on 10/27/2002 3:57:15 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: Sabertooth
It makes sense--in an insane sort of way. How the heck can sane people figure out what goes on in the mind of evil?
4 posted on 10/27/2002 3:57:32 AM PST by Samwise
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To: Sabertooth
Holy cow. (He's wrong about Mohammad being meant for the military, though. Mohammad was a washout as a soldier.)
5 posted on 10/27/2002 3:57:32 AM PST by LibWhacker
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To: Sabertooth
Sounded good at first until I realized he would only want to risk being caught during all his foolish negotiations after he was done with his primary mission.

This guy was tired of killing and wanted to cash out as a bonus for stopping. I think the family would have been taken out instead of playing footsie with police if that's what he wanted to do. Of course, his plan could have morphed midstream.

6 posted on 10/27/2002 4:27:11 AM PST by spycatcher
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To: anniegetyourgun
He had kidnapped these kids and took them to Antigua & other parents for about a year, until he was located back in the states. The kids were removed from him and returned to the custodial parent, the ex-wife. She then disappeared, although he was trying to locate her (according to his lawyer who's been making the TV rounds); if he located her, you can bet he was stalking her. At least one of the theories was that one of the persons murdered was the actual target. It may be he hadn't gotten to her yet.

And if one parent dies, the other person almost always gets custody as the surviving parent.

7 posted on 10/27/2002 4:27:26 AM PST by Catspaw
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I suspect this angle, the robbery in AL, and the revenge shooting in Tacoma (along with other crimes he may have committed such as extortion, fraud, forgery, etc.) will be downplayed in the criminal trial. His attorneys will need to portray him as a political prisoner who was acting on his calling from Allah, blah, blah, blah.....

Malvo, on the other hand, has no such story to lean on since he is an animist and not muslim. He will undoubtedly, however, get played out as a sad case 'child' whose father abandoned him, blah, blah, blah....

8 posted on 10/27/2002 5:22:22 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: anniegetyourgun
Malvo, I suspect, is going to be portrayed as a poor child led astray by a Svengali, the *real* mastermind of the crimes, the evil John Mohammed. Mohammed, as his former divorce/post-divorce lawyer is already portraying him, was driven mad by his ex-wife who wouldn't let him see his children (even though he violated the custody order & concealed the kids for a year & owes thousands in child support--and has a history of violence predating her by years), so it's all her fault.
9 posted on 10/27/2002 5:44:17 AM PST by Catspaw
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Clearly this guy would have killed his ex in a heartbeat out of his blinding rage and desire for vengence. And she is a muslim.

Honor killings are OK for muslims. Hiding your true motives to deceive infidels is also OK. Killing infidels is OK. By his standards, John was a righteous dude.

My head is spinning...

10 posted on 10/27/2002 5:45:59 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Sabertooth
Thanks for the heads up!
11 posted on 10/27/2002 6:05:55 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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Actually, on the probability table, the shooter was expected to do what is suggested above.

That the shooter would go for a small school, or force a "home invasion," and try to hide behind young people in his final "blaze of glory" was being planned for, as one of the most likely ends.

This gentleman's estimate is the most observant to date.

Again, we should be impressed by the "authorities" and their overlooking him.

Those would be the same "authorities" who were patting each other on the back so much, you'd a thought they were at an awards ceremony last week ... disgusting business.

12 posted on 10/27/2002 7:07:06 AM PST by First_Salute
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To: Sabertooth
this is the most logical scenario yet
13 posted on 10/27/2002 7:14:04 AM PST by Vinomori
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bttt
14 posted on 10/27/2002 7:38:58 AM PST by gubamyster
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To: anniegetyourgun
He will undoubtedly, however, get played out as a sad case 'child' whose father abandoned him, blah, blah, blah....

AND remember, a defense might include a homosexual victim(of MUHAMMED), psychological/emotional coercion aspect, as a mitigating factor....

15 posted on 10/27/2002 8:43:35 AM PST by 1234
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To: Pearls Before Swine
Wonder why he didn't kill his infidel partner in crime....
16 posted on 10/27/2002 9:28:28 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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Chief Moose just got back at Wolf Blitzer in an interview on CNN. Moose asked Blitzer why CNN did not report to LE that the sniper had made a phone call to them. First time I have seen Moose smile.
17 posted on 10/27/2002 9:45:43 AM PST by TexKat
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No kidding? You gotta like a guy who has so much contempt for the so-called journalists in this country!
18 posted on 10/27/2002 9:47:29 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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During the interview, Green pointed out that Muhammad's killings ringed the house in Clinton, Md., where Muhammad's former wife and children were living.

Interesting, if it's true.

19 posted on 10/27/2002 10:44:21 AM PST by vikingchick
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To: 1234
BUt He IS. This is where these pathologies of the soul start.

Islam, and especially the weird black permutations, are so dangerous because they feed the beast. It's a cult of narcissism - victimology + false sense of superiority.
20 posted on 10/27/2002 11:19:52 AM PST by SarahW
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