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To: Skywalk
Not being a hip hop fan, Your post might help explain how the shooter was influenced by this belief system. If it's passed by street lore and music, he could have been influenced by either or both. I would expect this was most likely the case with Malvo.

I do still think John Muhammad - as evidenced by his name change and his security guard affiliation with The Nation of Islam - was most influenced by that organization.

It is possible that some ideology from the 5 percenters, which was considered a religion in competition with NOI in the 60's, may have sort of merged into what is now just known commonly as NOI. I'm no expert here, just speculating.
39 posted on 10/26/2002 3:54:46 PM PDT by Route66
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Has anyone tried to use the "alphabet" to analyze the cryptic messages Moose was asked to recite?

(Like "Caught Like a Duck in a Noose")

40 posted on 10/26/2002 4:00:54 PM PDT by bcoffey
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To: Route66
It's quite possible we're looking at a Hate-America melange. I would not discount his domestic issues as a motive in his actions. I think some may be overblowing him working as security at the Million Man March. For their own pathological reasons, the majority of men in attendance rationalized away Farrakhan's influence and significance and chose to only look at the personal relevance. Most of them were not even Muslim, let alone Nation of Islam or 5%ers.

It's possible Muhammad had some stronger link with NOI, but it's also possible he was sympathetic as many black Christians are to the self-reliance theme often preached by Farrakhan. heck, more than a few of us started to believe Farrakhan's cancer bout had truly changed him, oh were we wrong.

Muhammad and Malvo might easily have "let in" or been receptive to all the negatives from NOI and the 5%ers while shutting out any mitigating influence from the same sources or from orthodox Islam(hey, not ALL black Muslims are fond of NOI or hating America)

There's also something significant about a man who converted 17 years ago, just changing his name in the last year(Sept 11th?) It indicates that there was a reawakening or strengthening of his belief, perhaps even a radicalization of it.

I do know one thing, that the investigators so in love with the white male theory might have gotten in their own way. An Arab Muslim might not say "I am God" as this would be blasphemy(hey, let's not get into how murder is just fine) but a BLACK MUSLIM with 5 percent/hip hop influences in his mind would certainly not think anything of saying "I am God, Arm Leg Leg Arm Head"

Oh well, hindsight being what it is, I won't criticize them too heavily for not thinking "Five Percenter influenced black Muslim" immediately.
45 posted on 10/26/2002 4:21:32 PM PDT by Skywalk
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