Are the Snipers Part of the "Five Percent Nation"? ("The Black Man is God" Among Teachings)

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[Katya]

"That the blackman is god and his proper name is ALLAH. Arm, Leg, Leg, Arm, Head

Actually this is the five pointed start....which is represented as man, ie. Think of Leonardo da Vinci....it's used as an esoteric symbol, in various belief and cultural systems.

[Katya]

This is a brilliant find....interesting the five percenters seem to want to set themselves apart as the esoteric branch of NOI, similar to the Sufi sect within Middle Eastern Islam....except that the fiv percenters are more of a gang.
The name struck me as humorous, because within the bike culture, the one percenters are the outlaw clubs...like the angels etc.

[Route66]

Bump...up again so more people can read it.

[Route66]

Bump...up again so more people can read it.

[Skywalk]

It's quite possible we're looking at a Hate-America melange. I would not discount his domestic issues as a motive in his actions. I think some may be overblowing him working as security at the Million Man March. For their own pathological reasons, the majority of men in attendance rationalized away Farrakhan's influence and significance and chose to only look at the personal relevance. Most of them were not even Muslim, let alone Nation of Islam or 5%ers.

It's possible Muhammad had some stronger link with NOI, but it's also possible he was sympathetic as many black Christians are to the self-reliance theme often preached by Farrakhan. heck, more than a few of us started to believe Farrakhan's cancer bout had truly changed him, oh were we wrong.

Muhammad and Malvo might easily have "let in" or been receptive to all the negatives from NOI and the 5%ers while shutting out any mitigating influence from the same sources or from orthodox Islam(hey, not ALL black Muslims are fond of NOI or hating America)

There's also something significant about a man who converted 17 years ago, just changing his name in the last year(Sept 11th?) It indicates that there was a reawakening or strengthening of his belief, perhaps even a radicalization of it.

I do know one thing, that the investigators so in love with the white male theory might have gotten in their own way. An Arab Muslim might not say "I am God" as this would be blasphemy(hey, let's not get into how murder is just fine) but a BLACK MUSLIM with 5 percent/hip hop influences in his mind would certainly not think anything of saying "I am God, Arm Leg Leg Arm Head"

Oh well, hindsight being what it is, I won't criticize them too heavily for not thinking "Five Percenter influenced black Muslim" immediately.

[mhking]

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[SauronOfMordor]

I also came across this stuff just a while ago (Sniper: "Word is Bond" and "I am God" (part of theology of Nation Of Islam offshoot) .

I think that the sniper was trying to communicate to fellow Black Muslims that he was one of them.

[ladyinred]

Well there you go, Bingo! Complete with the stars.

[lelio]

I wonder if the five stars on the letters they left has any relation to the Five Percenters.
There's been news reports of a Jamacian rap group called "Five Red Stars", but I haven't been able to find info on them.

[SauronOfMordor]

One interstingly scarey element of the Nation of Islam: the Zebra Killings in California :

During the early 1970s until 1974, anywhere from 14 to 270 murders of whites were carried out up and down the California coast by approximately 15 members of the Black Muslims, who are now known as the Nation of Islam. The murders became known as the "Zebra Killings" because police working the case used frequency "Z."

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As Clark Howard chronicled in his book, Zebra: The True Account of the 179 Days of Terror in San Francisco, the killers received help from fellow Black Muslims, and the Black Muslims paid the legal fees of all of the arrestees except for Harris. There would otherwise have been no way for them to elude capture. Two of the reasons contributing to the Zebra killers' success were the authorities' political cowardice in covering-up their knowledge of organized racial, mass murder, and their refusal to keep houses of worship under surveillance (sound familiar?).

[blam]

Interesting, bump.

[DoctorMichael]

BUMP.

Leave it to a Freeper to keep me more informed about links to African-American subculture than a whole gaggle of talking heads reading from press releases.

Thanks.

[Gritty]

This is a good find.

I note that "stars" are sometimes used for killings which are related to an individual's gang rank. For example, the following is from a text on the Nuesta Familia (NF), which is a Mexican Gang.

The organizational leadership is vested in a "General" with supreme power over all gang business. ... Additionally, the structure consists of captains (only a limited number), lieutenants (usually an unlimited number), and soldiers (soldados)... rank is usually achieved by the number of killings or "hits" with which the member is involved... A member earns "stars" for killings, and one cannot achieve the rank of lieutenant unless at least three stars have been earned... Promotion to the rank of Captain requires at least five stars in addition to an assessment of their member's leadership ability.

http://www.policestudies.eku.edu/POTTER/crj401_10.htm

The letter addressed to the Police found at the Ashland shooting was adorned with 5 stars. There was a previous suggestion these stars were related to a Rap Group in Jamaica.

Perhaps there is more to this symbolism than meets the eye?

[Geezerette]

Big bump and thank you!

Makes one shudder to read, tho', doesn't it?

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[SauronOfMordor]

Interesting that 45 minutes after your post, AP comes out with an article saying the same thing. Think they lurk? The AP article came out 6:27PM EDT

[SauronOfMordor]

Correction: it was more like an hour and 9 minutes after the freeper article

[nicmarlo]

thanks for the ping; as another poster mentioned, I hadn't heard of this 5% thing before; it smells to high heaven, to me, and something definitely worth paying attention to.....

[Bogey78O]

I've heard of them before. If you get some free time look up Kemetic Science.

[Katya]

"There was a previous suggestion these stars were related to a Rap Group in Jamaica.

Perhaps the rap group is involved with the 5%ers. The article mentions a few street rappers as followers.

[Bogey78O]

Supreme Alphabet
A - ALLAH
B - BE or BORN
C - CEE
D - DEVINE
E - EQUALITY
F - FATHER
G - GOD
H - HE or HER
I - I
J - JUSTICE
K - KING or KINGDOM
L - LOVE, HELL, or RIGHT
M - MASTER
N - NOW, NATION, or END
O - CIPHER
P - POWER
Q - QUEEN
R - RULER
S - SELF or SAVIOR
T - TRUTH or SQUARE
U - YOU or UNIVERSE
V - VICTORY
W - WISDOM
X - UNKNOWN
Y - WHY
Z - ZIG-ZAG-ZIG