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To: luckystarmom
I went to public school and gained a lot. I went on to a public college. I got a degree in engineering. I worked for 10 years. Then I stayed home to raise my kids. If my kids are as responsible as I have been, then I will be happy.

That is just my point. When people grow up on a welfare program they tend to believe it is the right way to do things and the next welfare program is easier to sell to them.

This thought process is what has brought us to the sorry state we are in today. First it was education, then retirement, now drugs and healthcare. Soon nobody will be taking responsibility for themselves. Already the top 50% of earners pay almost all the taxes for everyone else. With the changes Bush made a family of 4 has to make $35K before they pay taxes. They have no reason not to demand more services they are not paying for them.

When kids grow up in a welfare program they see nothing wrong with it. Kids who grow up in government housing think it is a fine way to grow up and think they are entitled to it. Kids who grow up in government schools think it is a fine way to grow up and think they are entitled to have others pay for their needs.

Your kids’ education is your responsibility. It is not your neighbor’s responsibility to pay for your needs any more than it is your responsibility to pay for healthcare or clothes and housing for my kids.

Free market schooling is a stretch for many people only because we are paying for a government system that is a failure and should not be in existence in any event. The sooner the working people abandon the government schools the sooner we can rip it out by the roots and return to a free market system that works.

By supporting the socialist government school system you are advancing socialism. You are teaching your kids that if they want something but don’t want to pay for it they can get the government to make others pay for it. You learned that lesson by being in government schools and you are teaching that lesson to your kids. This is the way liberalism infests the society and expands. They get people to accept one program at a time.

109 posted on 10/27/2002 1:52:55 PM PST by SUSSA
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To: SUSSA
Regarding all the complaints about illegal immigration and deteriorating public eductation: I suppose it's interesting if you're only confronting it for the first time, but for veterans who've been there and done that, one must realize that there's only ONE thing you can do to take advantage of the situation and benefit from policies of which you have no control.

To wit, try and get your children into schools and school districts in the wealthiest part of town. The best course of action, of course, is to try to move into the nicest area that you can afford, but failing that, try and get your kids into a school in that area.

The reason for this is that public schools in upscale neighborhoods are many times better than private schools. Put yourself in the position of some of the teachers who have posted here; they will tell you that it is VERY hard to get a teaching position at a top-notch public school. The reason is that everyone wants to teach good students.

Not only that, but the student body is typically made up of children who's parents have made the proper moves in order for them to attend schools in these districts and are usually pro-discipline.

Last, but not least, the tax system, as corrupt as it is, actually benefits homes with higher propety values and mortgages by making these expenses tax deductible.

Here in LA, even in the notorious LA Unified system, Taft, Penninsula & Palisades are often times finalists in Calif's high school decathalon for these exact reasons. (Many times going up against Beverly Hills High.)

Sure, it may be a racket, but I'd rather be the one gaming the system rather than being gamed.

110 posted on 10/27/2002 2:23:05 PM PST by Snerfling
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