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To: TN4Liberty
The Taiwanese do not want self determination and liberty separate from China. They see themselves as a Chinese government in exile. I don't believe they have ever advocated a separate state. I haven't studied this

That's obvious (sorry cheap shot).

Your comments are decades out of date. They do hark back to the time when Taiwan was still under Marshall law after being taken over by China after WWII (Taiwan was part of Japan from 1895 til the end of WWII).

It was illegal for people of Taiwan to say anything other than what you express and those who did were imprisoned, exiled or killed.

There was no representative democracy at the time nor free press either.

In the last 10 years or so Taiwan has become fully free with multiparty democracy.

The vast majority favor either outright independence -- ie changing the name of the nation from Republic of China to Republic of Taiwan or maintaining the status quo which is continued independence from China as the Republic of China.

As far as seeing themseves as a government in exile, that became rather silly after 10 years of existence of Red China, but continued on as an empty policy while Chiang Kai-shek and his son Chiang Ching-kuo were alive.

A few years after the younger Chiang died in 1988, the constitution was changed to correct the anachronistic position -- no more claim to be the legitimite government of China etc...

102 posted on 10/26/2002 8:14:48 AM PDT by tallhappy
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To: tallhappy
I will say this--if it's any clue--The vast majority of Taiwanese taxi drivers are fiercely independent and are strongly for independence. And many of the common low level shop keepers as well. Once I was getting a chop/stamp and rubber stamp made for return mail address stamping.

Whether to say Taiwan or Taiwan, ROC was a question. The shop keeper had VERY STRONG CONVICTIONS THAT IT SHOULD BE JUST TAIWAN. To blazes with China.
168 posted on 10/26/2002 10:28:46 AM PDT by Quix
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