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To: PatrickHenry
I think you mean "a distinction between the physical real and non-physical non-real?" The answer is self-evident. Unless one is a deranged subjectivist who feels that his private imaginings are no different than objective reality.

I believe in reality. Maybe an even better way to put it would be -- what is the distinction between reality and consciousness? For instance, the color green is a property of our consciousness, while in reality there is only light of a certain wavelength. The same probably holds true for numbers. If there were no conscious beings in the universe would qualia like the color green, or numbers exist?

235 posted on 10/28/2002 4:33:01 PM PST by Moonman62
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To: Moonman62
If there were no conscious beings in the universe would qualia like the color green, or numbers exist?

No. For example, the sun would still have the same planets it has now, nine of them, presumably. But there would be no "nine," just the objects themselves. With no conscious entity to number them.

237 posted on 10/28/2002 5:21:13 PM PST by PatrickHenry
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To: Moonman62
Maybe consciousness is the "carrier wave" of all existence and qualia being the property of our awareness.
238 posted on 10/28/2002 5:38:11 PM PST by Consort
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