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To: Alamo-Girl
You are a wonderful instigator. I commend you. This is beautiful in its presentation. It is as valuable as the conclusions one draws. But if one rejects logic, finds logic faulty, finds contradictions invalid, then what conclusions can one draw from this? None.

The answer is in a question no one dares to ask.

How can this be?

The resultant interference pattern shows that the photons behave as if they acted as a single entity with a wavelength half that for either photon alone,

Gee, each of the half acted as if they were half of one alone. What a surprise!!! So we still have a lousy map. Go back to the drawing board!

1,267 posted on 12/01/2002 11:03:28 PM PST by LogicWings
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To: LogicWings; beavus; donh
Thanks for your post, LogicWings!

The answer is in a question no one dares to ask.

So it seems. Here's some additional information for y'all:

Physics News 414, February 11, 1999

THE FIRST ENTANGLEMENT OF THREE PHOTONS has been experimentally demonstrated by researchers at the University of Innsbruck (contact Harald Weinfurter, harald.weinfurter@uibk.ac.at, 011-43-512-507-6316). Individually, an entangled particle has properties (such as momentum) that are indeterminate and undefined until the particle is measured or otherwise disturbed. Measuring one entangled particle, however, defines its properties and seems to influence the properties of its partner or partners instantaneously, even if they are light years apart. In the present experiment, sending individual photons through a special crystal sometimes converted a photon into two pairs of entangled photons. After detecting a "trigger" photon, and interfering two of the three others in a beamsplitter, it became impossible to determine which photon came from which entangled pair. As a result, the respective properties of the three remaining photons were indeterminate, which is one way of saying that they were entangled (the first such observation for three physically separated particles).

The researchers deduced that this entangled state is the long-coveted GHZ state proposed by physicists Daniel Greenberger, Michael Horne, and Anton Zeilinger in the late 1980s. In addition to facilitating more advanced forms of quantum cryptography, the GHZ state will help provide a nonstatistical test of the foundations of quantum mechanics. Albert Einstein, troubled by some implications of quantum science, believed that any rational description of nature is incomplete unless it is both a local and realistic theory: "realism" refers to the idea that a particle has properties that exist even before they are measured, and "locality" means that measuring one particle cannot affect the properties of another, physically separated particle faster than the speed of light.

But quantum mechanics states that realism, locality--or both--must be violated. Previous experiments have provided highly convincing evidence against local realism, but these "Bell's inequalities" tests require the measurement of many pairs of entangled photons to build up a body of statistical evidence against the idea. In contrast, studying a single set of properties in the GHZ particles (not yet reported) could verify the predictions of quantum mechanics while contradicting those of local realism. (Bouwmeester et al., Physical Review Letters, 15 Feb.)

Bell's Inqualities and Kolmogorov's Axioms (pdf)

New Loophole for the Einstein-Podolsky-Rosen Paradox


1,270 posted on 12/02/2002 7:22:26 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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