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To: donh
No. I am holding solidity with the jews, the witches, and the anabaptists, whom it would be best not to subject to another 1600 years of repression followed by mass murder because too many christians are too willfully, self-righteously smug to think about or address the principal targeting of the last 1600 years of repression, sitting in the bible like a poison-gas bomb waiting to be tripped by another Torquemada.

Is this then your final arguement to support the assertion that 'Parisee=Jew' and simultaneously 'Pharisee=type of Jew'?

1,224 posted on 12/01/2002 2:43:59 PM PST by beavus
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‘Therefore the kingdom of heaven is like a king who wanted to settle accounts with his servants’ (Matthew 18:23)

"In the parable introduced by the above verse, both servants bear the same relation to the king as each other. They are called "fellow servants" (28+29).

"The indulgence shown by the king to the destitute and desperate first servant, had ethical implications for him. He should have incorporated forgiveness into his lifestyle. There is an important organic relationship between the King, the servant, and his fellowservant. When the first servant, having had his entire debt canceled, threw his fellow servant in prison, his action bore jarringly on his relation to the fellow, as well as against his own relation to the king who had been so compassionate."

"The first servant's debt was enormous compared to that of the second servant. I am always the first servant. It is always better for me to think of my own debt to God, as having been greater than anyone else's. By keeping this perspective, mercy will loom large to me, and I will be more likely to forgive my fellow servants."

"In... humility---consider others better than yourselves" (Philippians 2:3).

1,225 posted on 12/01/2002 2:48:27 PM PST by f.Christian
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To: beavus
Is this then your final arguement to support the assertion that 'Parisee=Jew' and simultaneously 'Pharisee=type of Jew'?

I'll say this one more time. Pharasee is a synonym for orthodox jew, and has been since the bible was written. I brought up a quote from the Catholic Encyclopedia to demonstrate that to you. It was the intention of the writers of the gospels to paint the orthodox jews in a bad light in order to win converts from orthodox jewery to the catholic church. The catholic church officially admits to this. Defaming Pharasees served that purpose admirably, just as it served admirably to defame all jews throughout christendom for 1600 years. If I defame a non-evangelical, ethnic tribe of jews who have laws against intermarriage, and all of their children for all time, who am I condemning? All of the jews--you do the math.

Your insistence that the separation of the Pharasees from the rest of the jews matter of any gravity reminds me of the great battle between the hoomoosians and the hoomoeosians, over the question of whether Jesus was of the "substance", or of the "essence" of God. 23 priests were slaughtered in the debates over this question, which is why we now live with the doctrine of consubstantiation: jesus is of the substance of god. Which is why an orthodox jew regards being "saved" by accepting christ as a violation of the 1st commandment, and when you take the communion biscuit, of the 2nd commandment.

1,231 posted on 12/01/2002 3:00:00 PM PST by donh
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