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Men Hold Moscow Audience Hostage [Reports of 1000 Hostages]
AP News ^ | OCTOBER 23, 14:03 ET

Posted on 10/23/2002 11:12:47 AM PDT by McGruff

MOSCOW (AP) — Armed men entered a Moscow theater Wednesday and took the audience hostage, the Federal Security Service said.

The theater was holding a performance of the musical Nord-Ost, one of the Russian capital's most popular productions.

The Interfax news agency said one of its reporters was inside the theater at the time of the raid. She told them in a telephone call that the men had fired into the air and were preventing the audience from leaving, the agency said.

Police units were on their way to the scene.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: chechnya; moscow; religionofpeace; theatresiege
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To: xrp
I agree 100%.
921 posted on 10/23/2002 4:57:00 PM PDT by Skooz
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To: Smogger
Now the terrorist supposedly will release 50 hostages in exchage for this guy Akhmada Of Kadyrova.

Looks like the Muslims will trade Russian citizens for important Russian-held Chechyen high-ranking Islamic prisoners.

Once the suicide-terrorists have what they want, the theatre will most likely detonate.

This Babelfish version is from the terrorist website a few minutes ago.



 
Events

Caucasus - Chenter

(urgently!)Chechenskiye condemned men attacked Moscow!!!....
 

Modzhakhedy stated that they were ready to accept Kadyrova

Chechenskiye modzhakhedy stated that they were ready to accept Kadyrova and they were ready in exchange for its arrival to let go from 50 to 100 people.As stated in the telephone conversation with correspondent Kavkaz- center one of the chechenskikh soldiers.Esli Fishings he wants to save 50 lives of his citizens, let it send to us to the negotiations Of kadyrova..

2002-10-24 03: 38 : 34
 

All will perish, if there will be an attempt at the assault

Chechenskiy commander Movsar Barayev stated in the telephone conversation with agency Kavkaz- center, that the mined building will be here exploded and all will perish, if an attempt at the assault of building will be undertaken.Zdes6 is more than one thousand people.No one will leave by hence living and will perish together with us, if there will be an attempt at the assault, emphasized Barayev.

According to him of modzhakhedy, among which according to specified data 20 it is widowed chechenskikh soldiers, profit into Moscow not for the fact that to arrange games, profits for the fact that to be slain and to die on the earth/ground of enemy.Esli Fishings its band wants to preserve the life of its citizens, then they will stop war and will remove friendly forces from Chechni., stated Barayev

2002-10-24 03: 26 :55


922 posted on 10/23/2002 4:58:53 PM PDT by henbane
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To: Smogger
Now the terrorist supposedly with release 50 hostages in exchage for this guy Akhmada Of kadyrova.

Akhmad Kadyrov is the head of the Chechen administration, installed and supported by Russia.

923 posted on 10/23/2002 4:59:38 PM PDT by tarator
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To: Skooz
Well, the reason news hos are booked is because the sniper investigation has moved. Go there, you'll laugh your a$$ off after spending 6 scary hours on this thread, as I have...
924 posted on 10/23/2002 5:00:08 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: Aquinasfan
With all due respect, I gather they are covering the fact that the FBI is presently digging up a residential yard in Tacoma, in connection with the sniper case, and removing large bulky objects (covered in tarps so we can't see what they are) in trucks. And planning to do similar searches in various unnamed locations around the country. This could quickly turn bigger than the Moscow situation, depending on what those bulky objects turn out to be.
925 posted on 10/23/2002 5:01:08 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: henbane
Praying hard here for those folks. This is tragic.
926 posted on 10/23/2002 5:01:33 PM PDT by Slip18
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To: GovernmentShrinker
Neither is bigger than the other. The Russian situation has potentially more far reaching consequences (influencing their UN vote). Re Tacoma, the feds just hauled off a tree ostensibly to review for the existence of bullet fragments.
927 posted on 10/23/2002 5:03:48 PM PDT by kinghorse
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To: GovernmentShrinker
This could quickly turn bigger than the Moscow situation, depending on what those bulky objects turn out to be.

Unless the are start digging up hundreds of dead bodies which is I fail to see how in the short term it is a bigger story.

928 posted on 10/23/2002 5:04:24 PM PDT by Smogger
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To: tarator
From regions.ru:

Three Brittish citizens are among the hostages.

15 more children have been freed.

Putin cancels trip to Germany.

Nearby buildings are prepared to be evacuated.

929 posted on 10/23/2002 5:05:01 PM PDT by tarator
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To: BurbankKarl; CobaltBlue
This is a long excerpt from the Moscow Times, from the link that CobaltBlue posted in #898:

About 30 to 50 armed Chechens seized a Moscow theater Wednesday night and took an audience of some 700 people hostage, FSB officials and witnesses said. The Chechens demanded that federal troops pull out of Chechnya immediately, witnesses said. Interfax and Russian television, citing rebel web site Kavkaz.org, reported the attackers belong to a group headed by Movsar Barayev, a nephew of slain Chechen field commander Arbi Barayev. The web site could no longer be accessed in Moscow late Wednesday night.

Movsar Barayev has been reported killed several times during the ongoing Chechnya military campaign, most recently 10 days ago during Russian bombing raids. Barayev was quoted by kavkaz.org as saying that the gunmen arrived in Moscow "to die, not survive" and that 40 Chechen widows are participating in the attack, Interfax reported.

A hostage released at 1 a.m. said there were a number of women among the attackers.

Aslanbek Aslakhanov, the State Duma deputy from Chechnya, entered the theater late Wednesday night to negotiate with the attackers. . . .

* * *

The gunmen were laying mines in the theater, according to relatives of those trapped inside. Spectators were allowed to use their cellphones to call their families for a few hours after the gunmen seized the theater at 9 p.m. An Interfax reporter attending the musical said the men claimed to have wired the building with explosives and were calling themselves "the suicide troops from the 29th Division."

Scores of police and elite Alpha troops sealed off the building and nearby streets by 10:30 p.m. as they put operation "Thunderstorm" into action. Parked around the theater were at least two armored personnel carriers, 20 police cars, five fire trucks and a handful of ambulances. A cold drizzle was falling, and power was cut to lights around the theater, leaving the area dark. By 1 a.m., about 150 spectators had been released or escaped from the building, TVS television reported, citing Moscow police. The channel said two Germans, a father and daughter, remained inside.A Moscow Times reporter saw a dozen troops in riot gear and carrying rifles run up to the theater at about midnight. Ekho Moskvy radio reported that the troops penetrated the building but then retreated.

TVS said the hostage-takers had threatened to kill 10 spectators for every [??????] Members of the Chechen diaspora said they were ready to offer themselves as hostages, according to Russian television.

There were no reports of casualties at 1 a.m.

Radio Mayak quoted a source with the Moscow rescue services as saying that the gunmen had shot and thrown a grenade at a special forces group. The special forces had managed to build a ladder outside the building to help rescue actors from dressing rooms. The gunmen seized the theater just as the second act began, shooting automatic weapons into the air, said a "Nord-Ost" costume designer who managed to escape with a group of her colleagues through a third-floor window.

* * *

Local media said children, Muslims and foreigners who could show their passports were allowed to leave the building. The reports could not be confirmed.

President Vladimir Putin called an urgent meeting with Prime Minister Mikhail Kasyanov and other top officials in the Kremlin.

Alexei Volin, the deputy head of Kasyanov's administration, told Ekho Moskvy that it was important to negotiate with the gunmen but not to give them any concessions. He said the FSB had made contact with the gunmen. . . .

930 posted on 10/23/2002 5:05:24 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: laconic
Thanks for the list of companies that do not import saudi oil!
931 posted on 10/23/2002 5:05:35 PM PDT by ET(end tyranny)
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To: ET(end tyranny)
>I got an email this morning telling me which major oil companies DON'T buy Saudi gas; I don't want to give these phony skunks a cent. BP does not use one gram of Saudi oil.br> Cavuto had someone on a few weeks back with a list. All I could remember was BP. What are the others, please?

I just received this in an e-mail this evening -- I haven;t had a chance to check it out (i.e. it could be completely and thoroughly bogus, even a marketing ploy by one of these companies!):
Citgo, Sunoco, Conoco, Sinclair, BP/Phillips, Hess

932 posted on 10/23/2002 5:16:41 PM PDT by Eala
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To: Smogger
Boom!
933 posted on 10/23/2002 5:17:20 PM PDT by briant
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To: JohnathanRGalt
>Men Take Moscow Audience Hostage
>By JIM HEINTZ, Associated Press Writer
Strange, I don't see the word Muslim, Islamist or Chechin anywhere in the Associated press article. AP wants us to think that it must have been just a bunch of "Men" -- why?

Earlier reports in this thread indicate a number of women were also involved in the hostage-taking.

So who here believes anything the press reports?

934 posted on 10/23/2002 5:19:45 PM PDT by Eala
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To: Smogger
Some of those stolen "suitcase nukes" reported missing by the bushel-load, buried and waiting for the right moment to set off in different US cities?

935 posted on 10/23/2002 5:20:08 PM PDT by kaylar
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To: CobaltBlue
...We aren't in a war with Islam, we are in a war with Islamism....

A purely sophistical distinction. King George III could also have consoled himself with the fact that Great Britain was not at war with all American colonists--only about 12%. Louis XVI might have consoled the Little Shepardess with the news that the revolutionaries constituted less than 12% of the French population.

How did a tiny Arab tribe whose leader probably never actually existed manage to get a huge portion of the globe to protrate themselves five times a day towards the city that this mythological figure first conquered? Great, beautiful, sophisticated, ancient civilizations; all of them gone even from memory now--eradicated like the Budhist monuments in Afghanistan; their descendants part of a mass monoculture.

The Hadith gives a pretty frank indication of how they did it. When they were flush the activist vanguard--the 10 to 12% that moves all events in human history--went out to conquer. Sometimes they had fifth columnist help from dissatisfied minorites in the societies which they gutted.

The mohammedan world is in the money again because the West is totally dependant upon oil. The jihadist vangurd also smells an opening. The 300 year civil war in Western civilization has bled it dry. Western "Elites" are saprophytes feeding on the decay. Christians in the USA care about gas prices for their three cars, not about Hindus in Kasmir or Slaves in Sudan. Further the US government has been one of the main sponsors of this round of jihad--believing that they could ride this tiger and avoid the fate of the young lady from Niger.

Further, trans-national captialism has a great deal of affection for "islamic" culture. It keeps the peons out of their hair.

936 posted on 10/23/2002 5:24:56 PM PDT by LaBelleDameSansMerci
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To: CobaltBlue
For email addresses for the Russian embassy and consulates, try
http://www.russianembassy.biz/u.htm
Tried to find consulate emails using the link to russianembassy.org and ended up getting Viagra ads.

Address:
Embassy of the Russian Federation
641 Wisconsin Ave., N.W.,
Washington D.C., 20007, USA

E-mail:
russ-amb@cerfnet.com
waconsru@prodigy.net
937 posted on 10/23/2002 5:28:50 PM PDT by omega4412
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To: SerpentDove
Hi all. Just getting in after my commute home. Going back over the thread now. Listened to NPR news on the way home (I know, I know) and at least they had the Moscow hostage story right after the sniper update. Their reporter on the scene in Moscow also mentioned that Muslims (not "non-Russians") had been released. Hopefully nothing dramatic has happened yet.
938 posted on 10/23/2002 5:30:08 PM PDT by Wordsmith
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To: L,TOWM
The "outpouring of support" is pure Bravo Sierra.

I prefer Barbra Strident.

939 posted on 10/23/2002 5:31:24 PM PDT by Eala
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To: L,TOWM
The "outpouring of support" is pure Bravo Sierra.

I prefer "Barbra Strident." (That should have been in quotes -- I Do Not 'prefer' Baghdad Babs to much of anything.)

940 posted on 10/23/2002 5:32:35 PM PDT by Eala
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