Howdy Stone Mountain
Stone Mountain says: So did these patients actually die when they experienced hell?
Yes they were all clinically dead when they went to Hell.
Stone Mountain says:If so, were they brought back to life by the doctors?
Yes Dr. Rawlins is a cardiologist and he and his colleagues are constantly treating emergency patients, they start resuscitation procedures and many have had near-death experiences.
Here is a video you can watch to hear more.
http://afterdeath.gq.nu/
Stone Mountain says:Is clinical death the same thing as death everlasting?
No it's not the same...Clinical death (cessation of breathing or heart function or brain function)
With death everlasting you don't get a second chance.
I believe God is allowing quite a few folks to come back & tell others that Heaven & Hell are very real places where each one of us is going to live forever.
You can read more testimonies here:
http://www.pconline.com/~jsenear/indexNF.html
And what the Bible says:
Luke 16:19 "There was a certain rich man," Jesus said, "who was splendidly clothed and lived each day in mirth and luxury.
Luke 16:20 One day Lazarus, a diseased beggar, was laid at his door.
Luke 16:21 As he lay there longing for scraps from the rich man's table, the dogs would come and lick his open sores.
Luke 16:22 Finally the beggar died and was carried by the angels to be with Abraham in the place of the righteous dead. The rich man also died and was buried,
Luke 16:23 and his soul went into hell. There, in torment, he saw Lazarus in the far distance with Abraham.
Luke 16:24 "'Father Abraham,' he shouted, 'have some pity! Send Lazarus over here if only to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, for I am in anguish in these flames.'
Luke 16:25 "But Abraham said to him, 'Son, remember that during your lifetime you had everything you wanted, and Lazarus had nothing. So now he is here being comforted and you are in anguish.
Luke 16:26 And besides, there is a great chasm separating us, and anyone wanting to come to you from here is stopped at its edge; and no one over there can cross to us.'
Luke 16:27 "Then the rich man said, 'O Father Abraham, then please send him to my father's home--
Luke 16:28 for I have five brothers--to warn them about this place of torment lest they come here when they die.'
Luke 16:29 "But Abraham said, 'The Scriptures have warned them again and again. Your brothers can read them any time they want to.'
Luke 16:30 "The rich man replied, 'No, Father Abraham, they won't bother to read them. But if someone is sent to them from the dead, then they will turn from their sins.'
Luke 16:31 "But Abraham said, 'If they won't listen to Moses and the prophets, they won't listen even though someone rises from the dead.'"
Howdy, Ready2go...
many have had near-death experiences. ...Clinical death (cessation of breathing or heart function or brain function)
I guess this is my point. Is clinically dead the same thing as death everlasting? Or is it just "near death?" You seem to be using the terms interchangably. Of course the difference is that death everlasting lasts forever, but what I was trying to ask was at the point at which one is clinically dead, are they reallydead? Do all the things that happen to dead people happen to them? At what point do they become dead and when do they cease to be dead? It seems to me that "near death" experiences could be any of a number of things that happen to the brain at or about the point of dying, but the brain itself may not die precisely at the point when the other organs give out.
"I believe God is allowing quite a few folks to come back & tell others that Heaven & Hell are very real places where each one of us is going to live forever."
So he allowed some athiests to visit hell briefly and as a result, those athiests became believers. Except aren't they different from the majority of Christians who believe what they believe because of faith? Those former athiests didn't find faith; they found what they consider to be absolute proof of God and an afterlife, and thus they converted. Isn't that different from people who believe despite having no reason other than their faith to do so?
You're saying that God is allowing those folks to see the afterlife in order to tell others about it, but I don't see these people who have had these experiences having a lot of luck in converting other athiests, because most of those people are athiests becausethey don't have any clear (as far as they are concerned) evidence of God. I'm sure most, if not all of those athiests would become devout Christians in a hurry if they went through what some of those other people did in their near-death experiences. It seems to me that if God really wanted everybody to go to Heavem, he would let give everybody a peek into the afterlife and allow them to make their own decisions, just as he did for these lucky few.