[Woahhs]

My own own grandmother read me the riot act once because I told my brother to go get his own beer.

Personally, I find that mindset just as offensive. My problem is the female mindset that assumes males are suppose to do or perform anything the woman wants done, but doesn't want to do herself. That, and the assumption that she gets to dictate what is "enough." (i.e. wants help with housework, but also wants to say what's clean enough.) You can ask me for help, or you can tell me what you want done...you can't have both.

I can live without a woman, and I don't want a woman who can't live without me.

[Desdemona]

You kind of had to be there. It was Thanksgiving, I had been in the kitchen doing - something - after setting the table (which is my job. being the only right-handed person and the only one at home that year who understands the concept of a salad fork)) and I put a load in the dishwasher. I went into the den and had JUST sat down when J said "hey, Des, go get me a beer." No please. I said, "You have two arms and two legs, go get it yourself."

He's my brother. Not father, grandfather, uncle, [husband]. Those men, well, that's different.

[Desdemona]

I think I misread your post. SORRY.

I'll make a deal with whoever I end up with...I'll take care of the house (since I haven't met a man who really knows how to oil furniture or moves the couch when vacuuming) as long as he cuts the grass or lets me hire it done, because I'm VERY allergic to freshly cut grass. We're talking massive asthma attack.