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To: laurav
"I'm a little confused about the fun, exciting bachelor life these researchers refer to. Many of my single male friends find that most evenings they're cozying up to the TV with a can of tuna for dinner and a bottle of Jack Daniels to wash it down."

Agreed. Speaking as a divorced male, single for some time now, the "Great Single Life" is definitely not My preference. Most evenings are spent in front of the computer teaching Myself more and more things, and a can of Chunky Soup or a TV dinner with some cheap beer to wash it down with.

Perhaps some observatios are in order here. One being that the article is entirely correct that the ease of divorce is a very serious impediment to the intent of marriage in this day and age -and moreso if children are involved. I can name you friend after friend that has literally lost it all because there was a major row and the woman did not even consider patching things up to make the relationship work out. Indeed, why should she? Most times she first drained the bank accounts and maxed out the credit cards, then used the system to get half of everything and alienate the children. Why shouldn't men be unwilling to take that kind of risk?

Also remember the truism: "Men marry women for who they are. Women marry men for what they CAN be". I have had many women admit this to Me over the years. Take it from Me: men do not WANT to be changed, and we want to live with the woman we fell in love with, not the one who enjoys attempting to manipulate us while at the same time expecting us to support their every changing need and moods.

I also agree with the opinion expressed above that most men do not want to have to raise some other male's children, both because of the immediate financial demands, and because you are essentially supporting someone's indescretions -and mistakes. Not to mention the difficulty of allowing for some strange male to constantly generate tension in the relationship.

Another amusing observation I have made over the years is that according to the woman, her 'ex-' is ALWAYS a "Jerk". Some of My friends are ex-'s. Some, granted, are indeed Jerks. Most, however, are merely trying to deal with life as best they can, and to reconcile themselves to the fact that women are not interested in making the relationship work -especially when all the advice groups and women's forums continually insist that "If he starts becoming angry, just LEAVE". Most miss their partners immensely, and wish there was some way to reconcile.

Amazingly enough, however, ALL the women insist that they could not possibly get back together with 'him' -or... perhaps -"but first he has to change".

My question is; why is it always the male who has to change?

55 posted on 10/22/2002 3:19:54 PM PDT by Utilizer
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To: Utilizer
Most, however, are merely trying to deal with life as best they can, and to reconcile themselves to the fact that women are not interested in making the relationship work -especially when all the advice groups and women's forums continually insist that "If he starts becoming angry, just LEAVE". Most miss their partners immensely, and wish there was some way to reconcile.

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Why would any man miss somebody like this? This suggests these men have reied to talk themselves into a poor bargain because women of any caliber and decencency are not in sufficience abundance.

62 posted on 10/22/2002 4:23:31 PM PDT by RLK
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To: Utilizer
My question is; why is it always the male who has to change?

Because in most cases women possess stronger verbal skills than men, and so get to set the terms of the debate.

As an example; how many men would pick up on the intrinsic duplicity of a woman that holds him responsible for his bad behavior, yet simultaniously predicates her bad behavior as a response to him?

265 posted on 10/27/2002 8:42:33 PM PST by Woahhs
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