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To: justshutupandtakeit
In re: your constant support of public schools:

Do you believe that public schools are a form of socialism?

If the state confiscated wealth from its citizens to provide food, clothes, or housing for all the children within its boundaries would that not be a form of socialism? Why is it okay for the state to provide socialist education but not okay to provide socialist food, clothes, and housing to the children? Wouldn't a better term for public schools be "welfare schools" since they are meant for those children whose parents can't afford to send them to private schools or can't afford to teach them at home because both parents work?

Are you saying that a little bit of socialism is okay? Where do you draw the line then? How much socialism is too much socialism? What if I don't agree? Will you force me to accept the little bit of socialism you deem acceptable?

194 posted on 10/23/2002 9:51:23 AM PDT by Spiff
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To: Spiff
No. Socialism is the ownership by the proletariat of the means of production. Taxation is not socialism. Public education is not socialism. Mass inoculation against polio is not socialism either. Socialism means something specific- the ownership by the working class of the means of production. No private ownership. Hint: socialism is not just anything you dislike or disapprove of. It is an economic concept.

Education is a social process which serves the society as a whole as well as the state. Only with an educated electorate can a representative republic survive. Thus, there is a great need for education. So far public education has served our nation well. With proper reform it will continue to do so. Public education is one of the hallmarks of a civilized society.

Educating your children even partially at my cost helps ME as well as YOU by producing citizens capable of earning a decent living and understanding the world around them and me. Nothing could be more dangerous than an uneducated populance living in ignorance without the capability to support themselves.
199 posted on 10/23/2002 10:17:00 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit
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To: Spiff
Public education is not socialistic. Your bandying about that term so losely only undercuts your credibility.
215 posted on 10/23/2002 11:25:26 AM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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