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I'll post a link when one is available. Please comment and post links if you have them. Thanks, folks !
1 posted on 10/20/2002 4:10:42 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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To: MeeknMing
Did he have an accent?
80 posted on 10/20/2002 4:31:34 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: MeeknMing
Don't discount the first part of the announcement. Chief Moose was forced to single out the chief of police in Ashland as doing such a good job.

This was a phone message left at the Ponderosa -- not a written message left at the shooting hide -- called in by the sniper after he got away but only just barely. He was impressed at the reaction time in Ashland and he attributed this to the chief on the scene there (I forgot the chief's name).

The number to call is either a phone booth, a disposable cell phone, or a number that the sniper is insisting be cleaned of surveillence.

From the gitgo I was sure that this was AQ terrorism. This tell's me it's a nut on a power play.

86 posted on 10/20/2002 4:32:35 PM PDT by EarlyBird
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To: MeeknMing
This is OBVIOUSLY the Onion because no LE would ever do that.
Rather, by not answering, a second message would appear.


107 posted on 10/20/2002 4:36:17 PM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: MeeknMing
I can't believe the number of people on this thread that think a phone number is married to a specific location. Verizon (or whoever) could have that number permanently redirected anywhere in the globe in about 3 minutes.

Scenarios:

1. Message with fake number. Telco maps that number to police line.

2. Message with real number, nobody home. If a real number was left, the FBI cleaning service has already done a thorough job at that location. Same scenario.

3. Message had number of police, tip line, etc.

Every carrier has 24 hour staff dedicated to law enforcement for this specific purpose.
111 posted on 10/20/2002 4:37:19 PM PDT by smpte
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When I first heard Chief Moose make his statement-I assumed that a witness left a number and they were trying to reestablsih contact with a witness at the Ponderosa. The media is as confused as we are-especially since Chief Moose said he would not take any questions. They have now sent out someone to clarify the situation-and she is repeating the same phrase again.The media is totally confused, hope whoever "the person" is-they understand the message.
114 posted on 10/20/2002 4:38:01 PM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: MeeknMing
Sheesh, reporters are dumber than hell. How many times does the spokesperson have to explain that the message is not for them to understand.
119 posted on 10/20/2002 4:39:34 PM PDT by flying Elvis
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To: MeeknMing
Poor Moose thought he would move to Md. where his competence would never be questioned.
133 posted on 10/20/2002 4:43:24 PM PDT by boomop1
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Thank you for fixing my title !
143 posted on 10/20/2002 4:48:09 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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To: MeeknMing
Moose is a comedian.

Talk about the Keystone Cops.

167 posted on 10/20/2002 4:54:48 PM PDT by marshmallow
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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,66161,00.html

Moose Seeks Contact With Person Who Left Number, Police Assume Shooting the Work of Sniper

Sunday, October 20, 2002

ASHLAND, Va.  — Montgomery County Police Chief Charles Moose on Sunday said a message had been left for authorities at the Ponderosa restaurant where a 37-year-old man was downed by a single shot to the abdomen Saturday night -- and asked the person who left it to contact law enforcement.

"To the person who left us a message at the Ponderosa last night. You gave us a telephone number. We do want to talk to you. Call us at the number you provided. Thank you," he said.

Moose, who asked that the media carry the message "clearly," did not take questions and did not elaborate. It was not clear how or where the message was left, who might have left it or for whom it was intended.

Investigators acting on the assumption that the Washington-area sniper has expanded his geographic range searched for clues at the parking lot shooting scene Sunday, while doctors said the critically injured victim has a reasonable chance of recovery.

Dozens of officers completed a methodical, inch-by-inch search of a wooded area near the Ponderosa. Investigators said little about what, if anything, they had found.

Some witnesses said they heard a shot coming from a wooded area near the restaurant, but nobody reported seeing the shooter.

If the shooting is linked to the sniper attacks that have killed nine and injured two since Oct. 2, it would be the first weekend attack and the farthest the sniper has traveled -- about 85 miles south of Washington.

The longest previous distance from the Washington area was Spotsylvania County, about 50 miles south of Washington. It would also break the longest lull between shootings, about five days.

Former FBI profiler Clinton Van Zandt said Saturday's shooting, if related, could show the killer's approach is changing in response to law enforcement tactics. For instance, reports last week that military surveillance planes would be used in the Washington suburbs probably prompted the sniper to move farther away, he said.

And since much had been made about the weekend lulls, "I think he reacted to that," Van Zandt said.

The most recent shooting confirmed sniper attack was the Monday night slaying of FBI analyst Linda Franklin outside a Home Depot store in Falls Church.

Residents were on edge in Ashland, a town of about 6,500. At the Virginia Center Commons mall, about seven miles from the shooting, a normally busy food court sat half-empty Sunday. Shopper Nancy Elrod said she almost had been too afraid to come.

"We certainly felt sorry about all the people up north who were nervous and now it's down here and we're nervous too," said Elrod, 45.

Police said the victim, whose name was not released, and his wife were traveling and stopped in Ashland for gas and food. His wife told authorities the shot sounded like a car backfiring and said her husband took about three steps before collapsing.

Authorities were on the lookout early on for a white van with a ladder rack. Ashland Police Chief Frederic Pleasants Jr. said after interviewing witnesses, however, police had no suspects and no clear description of a vehicle that could be placed at the scene.

The man underwent surgery for three hours Saturday night at MCV Hospitals in Richmond, hospital spokeswoman Pam Lepley said. Doctors said hey did not try to remove the bullet in the first round of surgery, but would try to do so in a second round expected Sunday night.

Doctors had to remove part of the man's stomach, half of his pancreas and his spleen, said Dr. Rao Ivatury, the hospital's director of trauma and critical care. The man was conscious but unable to talk because he was on a ventilator, he said.

"The prognosis is still guarded, but since he is a very healthy man and he is very young, the chances are fair to good, I would say," Ivatury said.

Unless the bullet is removed, officials can't conclusively determine whether it was fired from the same rifle used in the 11 previous assaults.

However, it may be possible at least to determine if the bullet is the same size, .223-caliber, that was used in the earlier attacks, said Dr. Paul B. Ferrara, director of Virginia's Division of Forensic Science.

"It depends on the condition of the bullet and how badly fragmented it is," Ferrara said. "Sometimes a firearms expert can assess or approximate the caliber of weapon by looking at X-rays from different angles."

Russ Brickey, 26, a maintenance mechanic, said he had eaten at the Ponderosa many times and couldn't believe this type of violence had made its way to Ashland.

"This is like a high-tech Mayberry," Brickey said as he stood across the street from the restaurant. "Stuff like this isn't supposed to happen here -- period."

School superintendents from three counties and the city of Richmond said schools would open Monday, but with lockdowns at individual schools and possible restrictions on outdoor activities. No specifics were released. School officials said they planned to address Friday football games and future activities later.

Authorities in Maryland, meanwhile, on Sunday continued testing a shell casing found in a white rental truck to determine if it could be linked to the sniper attacks. Police said it would be at least Monday before they could announce whether the casing is connected to the shootings.

A source close to the investigation, however, said Sunday that "it has nothing to do with this case." The source, speaking on condition of anonymity, would not confirm reports that the shell was .30-caliber, a different size from the sniper's bullets, but said: "It's got caliber problems, it's got age problems."

The shell casing was found in a car seized at a rental agency near Dulles International Airport in Virginia, authorities said.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

169 posted on 10/20/2002 4:55:17 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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To: MeeknMing
OK..they found the message in the woods behind the Ponderosa.

We don't need to know what it means, but Moose wants the media to keep playing the cryptic reply...

Anyone think the sniper is ready to deal? (I'll go out on a limb here, and say "no" ).

sw

183 posted on 10/20/2002 4:59:21 PM PDT by spectre
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To: MeeknMing
The "message" could have been the shooting. Moose didn't necessarily say the phone number was left in a message at the Ponderosa last night. He made two separate statements. Maybe the number has something to do with one of the other shootings and the police are trying to initiate, or reinitiate, contact. Or maybe not.
205 posted on 10/20/2002 5:04:04 PM PDT by countess
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260 posted on 10/20/2002 5:17:35 PM PDT by Spiff
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To: MeeknMing
Sounds like a scene from Mulholland Drive.
272 posted on 10/20/2002 5:20:25 PM PDT by Inkie
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To: MeeknMing
With this poor imbecile the perp will call, they will chat, then the office holder will say have a nice day and hang up!
298 posted on 10/20/2002 5:26:18 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS
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"A senior Fatah activist satanist was assassinated by Israel on Sunday evening when a public telephone exploded in his hand"

OOOOPS!

ATTN: Chief Moose - Take a tip from our Israeli friends!!

315 posted on 10/20/2002 5:30:21 PM PDT by soozla
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To: MeeknMing
My domestic nutjob extortionist theory is bearing fruit. The sniper wants something. It may not be money either.

I'm afraid to say, but a more high profile target may be next. Just when the authorities seemed to be poised to go into a news blackout, the sniper ups the ante with this new note. Won't let his carnage go unoticed. Definately baiting the authorities now.

Please let this insanity stop.....
404 posted on 10/20/2002 5:55:44 PM PDT by Milwaukee_Guy
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To: MeeknMing
I haven't read the whole thread, perhaps this has already been suggested.

The sniper did not leave a note, they left a cell phone.

454 posted on 10/20/2002 6:09:04 PM PDT by Mark Felton
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Who knows, Chief Moose might get a relayed call directly from Usama bin Laden in Afghanistan. For the killer to call Moose directly from any phone within this country would be insane.
468 posted on 10/20/2002 6:14:04 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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Maybe the number is connected to a cell phone that is linked to detonator or some such thing. Didn't they (terrorists)use cell phones to blow buildings/vehicles up in Israel?
505 posted on 10/20/2002 6:28:45 PM PDT by madison10
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