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Hunters give new meaning to "unlimited"
Fargo Forum ^ | 10/20/02 | Terry DeVine

Posted on 10/20/2002 11:20:37 AM PDT by Dakotabound

Hunting season is upon us once again in North Dakota and everyone I talk to tells me the shooting is about as good as they’ve ever seen.

There are geese galore, ducks everywhere, and they claim the pheasant hunting is as good – or better – than that found in South Dakota, which has always touted itself as the best in the nation when it comes to populations of the most popular of upland game birds.

Just because the hunting is great doesn’t mean the law can be overlooked, however. Last week three hunters gave new meaning to the term “ducks unlimited.”

You should be hearing about these unnamed out-of-state hunters very soon when they’re arraigned in federal court.

They were nabbed in Carrington, in central North Dakota, after law enforcement officials received a tip on their activity.

Carrington Police Officer Charles Zink estimated the three hunters may have had as many as 300 frozen duck carcasses in their possession. The daily limit is six ducks, with a maximum of 12 in possession per hunter.

You’re probably asking yourself why anyone would want 300 ducks. Good question. I certainly don’t have the answer. They must have lots of friends back home.

Rich Grosz, a special agent for the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, says the hunters could be charged with violating the federal Migratory Bird Treaty Act. If found guilty under state law, they could lose their vehicles and guns. They should.

Unfortunately, this happens more than we know. North Dakota has only 30 game wardens, says North Dakota game warden supervisor Bruce Burkett, so catching the violators is often a matter of pure luck or being in the right place at the right time.

And it isn’t just hunters who break the law. Eleven members of a fishing party from Iowa – six adults and five juveniles – were recently nabbed after getting greedy while fishing on Little Floyd Lake in Minnesota’s Becker County.

The group had 622 sunfish in its possession. That exceeded the sunfish possession limit by 292 fish.

Minnesota Department of Natural Resources conservation officer Chris Vinton received a tip via the “Turn in Poachers” line about the overfishing.

They paid a fine and bond totaling $2,200 before returning to Iowa. And Vinton says they were pikers compared to a group arrested earlier this month. That group had 1,500 sunfish in its possession, which they were planning to use for a fish fry at a bar.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; US: North Dakota; US: South Dakota
KEYWORDS: 300ducks; confiscation; ducksunlimited; hunting
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To: Terriergal
I would like to see all animals equiped with guns when a hunter comes along to try to kill it.

Does this sound like a man walking his dog? You need to learn to comprehend..... also... look up the word analogy.

Another thing....we went through this hijack thing....shall I report my findings again and embarrass you?

61 posted on 10/21/2002 12:11:01 PM PDT by Sungirl
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To: Sungirl
One of the 30-pound fawns had its bottom row of teeth knocked out. "They were pushing it down, kicking it, shoving it's head into the asphalt so that it lost some of its teeth," said animal control officer Tina Tveite (pictured, left). "There was a lot of blood coming from the face."

This is so sad.....The only way to teach these kids is to give them a taste of their own medicine. Every drop.

62 posted on 10/21/2002 12:17:37 PM PDT by Terriergal
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To: Sungirl
...I would like to see all animals equiped with guns when a hunter comes along to try to kill it. It would almost be fair. You got a problem with that? You don't like eqaul playing fields?

You really are a class A watermelon aren't you?

If we should find bears with guns; hunters will start using attack helicopters.

The animals have senses FAR beyond human norm and toe to toe most prey could easily kill unarmed humans.

63 posted on 10/21/2002 12:18:47 PM PDT by Centurion2000
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To: BlueLancer
You can relax...I'm not totally against hunters and not a vegan or anything.

Hunting animals is hardly comparable to a war.

64 posted on 10/21/2002 12:19:28 PM PDT by Sungirl
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To: Centurion2000
Yeah...you're right...those killer cats or rabbits are MEAN! Got to have an elephant gun around when you see one of those beasts.
65 posted on 10/21/2002 12:21:20 PM PDT by Sungirl
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To: Sungirl
,,, this continued effort of yours to re-educate us in your doctrines is getting tiresome. The message is that animals will be, have always been and are hunted. Has anyone on these threads ever endorsed cruelty to animals whilst engaging in hunting? Not that I've seen. Has anyone ever said "I like to go out hunting because it beats what's on TV"? No, they're passionate about it. Good hunters develop skills, patience and [pitched at your tree hugging ethos] self-esteem.

I don't get time to hunt these days but I've made a decision to leave animals in the wild to live happily and hunt down animal rights activists instead. Call it the holistic approach - I feel comfortable with it and there won't be any animals harmed at all. I'm cetain this will present a paradox for you as you seem to place human life lower down the scale.

66 posted on 10/21/2002 12:23:05 PM PDT by shaggy eel
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To: Centurion2000
Moose bite, you know.
67 posted on 10/21/2002 12:24:21 PM PDT by PoorMuttly
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To: Sungirl
You need to learn to comprehend

BWAAAAHAHAHAHA!

68 posted on 10/21/2002 12:31:12 PM PDT by Terriergal
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To: Sungirl; BlueLancer
Blue, I hope you recognize this for the lie it is!
69 posted on 10/21/2002 12:41:26 PM PDT by smoking camels
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To: shaggy eel
Not starting in Palm Beach are ya now? LOL
70 posted on 10/21/2002 12:42:46 PM PDT by smoking camels
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To: shaggy eel
You must of missed all those posts where hunters admitted to killing stray animals and birds for fun or boredom.....or how one guy was so happy to report his mother used to put kittens in burlap bags and beat them on the floor to kill them. Or how Terrgirl likes to teach her girls that rabbits are bad when around the garden..KILL THEM..(they're under 10) Did you miss all that stuff?

I express my opinion.....if it's so tiresome to you...click on something more interesting...instead of taking the time and effort to answer me.

71 posted on 10/21/2002 12:44:26 PM PDT by Sungirl
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To: smoking camels
,,, Palm Beach sounds far too recreational for me. I'd possibly yield to the temptations I'm certain such a place would present.
72 posted on 10/21/2002 12:46:25 PM PDT by shaggy eel
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To: Sungirl
,,, as much as you'd like to think you're re-educating us, indulge me in my crusade too.

Kittens in burlap bags and rabbits doing damage in the garden aren't what balanced people would call hunting. You do know about balance, don't you? It's the sort of thing that keeps you from having your posts deleted in this forum. Terriergal forwarded me [now deleted] examples from this thread that lead me to believe you'd be well suited to burlap bag occupancy.

73 posted on 10/21/2002 12:54:16 PM PDT by shaggy eel
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To: shaggy eel
yeah... but then while ogling the pretty girls you would see one with 6" long underarm hair and a rank BO out feeding the feral cats and it would ruin your day.
74 posted on 10/21/2002 1:01:13 PM PDT by smoking camels
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To: Sungirl
Please post the address for the burlap bag kittens thing.

You accused me of being the one. Totally false. I am thinking it is one more delusion lurking in your sick mind.

75 posted on 10/21/2002 1:03:33 PM PDT by smoking camels
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To: Sungirl
I dont' mind saying this...I would like to see all animals equiped with guns when a hunter comes along to try to kill it. It would almost be fair. You got a problem with that? You don't like eqaul playing fields?

It's already fair. That is why its called hunting, and not raising game for food.

The game animals are in their own environment, they know the territory, they are equipped with excellent senses in order to survive the harshness of their environment.

Here comes a hunter, who would be lucky to catch something. One wrong move, and the game is gone, far away, and the hunter it going to have to try again another time.

I think you should go and convince ranchers that the cattle they raise should be given fully-automatic weapons so that the cattle can revolt against the ranchers.

Hunters and fishermen have contributed more into preserving and maintaining wildlife habitat than all of the environmentalist groups combined, by a very wide margin. And hunters and fishermen are not afraid to share with other non-hunters and non-fishermen the serenity and opportunity to enjoy the great outdoors, unlike environmentalists groups, which are the ones that seek to lock up huge swaths of land away from humans.

76 posted on 10/21/2002 1:05:15 PM PDT by Frohickey
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This is a most priceless gem IMO in which she both displays her (as well as most animal rights people's) ignorance about firearms as well as equating hunters with budding sserial killers:

Yes...defenseless. How can a deer or pheasant possibly outrun a shotgun with laser scopes?

I think this was all started because I expressed my 'opinion' about hunters. I personally find that particular personality trait in people abhorant and dangerous. I feel that someone who can blow away a innocent life like that has a screw loose. I feel that teaching children to kill unnessarily...say squirrels or rabbits..to be a horrible mistake and disservice to both the child and society. THey should be taught to respect all 'animal' life...not that some lives are disposable whenever one feels like it (we are animals too). I feel that they should teach their kids that that squirrel or rabbit or bluebird may have babies or a mate and that should be pointed out and respected. TO blow them away without that consideration is a sin in my opinion....I think you have heard about all the serial killers who started with animals when they were young. I wonder if their parents ever taught them compassion towards animals whenever the opportunity is there. There is way too much animal cruelty around.

77 posted on 10/21/2002 1:06:32 PM PDT by Terriergal
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To: Sungirl
Yeah...you're right...those killer cats or rabbits are MEAN! Got to have an elephant gun around when you see one of those beasts.

Kittens and rabbits get a .22LR in the body. That's enough to kill them.

Bears, moose and elk get 300 magnums or 454 casull rated pellets though.

If animals are so noble and better than us, why are THEY running the world.

Welcome to nature where the strongest and cleverest survive. If you have a problem with that, stop lecturing hunters and go build a zoo.

78 posted on 10/21/2002 1:07:12 PM PDT by Centurion2000
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To: shaggy eel
Unfortunatley you missed the point...hunters admitted to doing these things...while hunting and while at home. WHat don't you get? NO...it's NOT real hunting in my opinion THAT'S THE POINT.

And you missed all the posts where these 'people' and I use the term loosely....call me names, make fun of my appearance...my family, my children.what they would do to my cats,....all horrible personal attacks that you don't want to see. I respond in kind one out of 10 times I am personally attacked and you all jump on the me.....AND it was something that was kidded about...laughed at by her and publicly admitted...big deal...she has no hair..Wow~ She was laughing about it before....Now she makes a deal out of it....BUT..it's ok to make horrible accusations about me in threads where I am not even there...or make personal attacks against me ..and you are blind to it.....and NOW you want me smashed to the ground in a burlap bag....you are typical of your peers. You're group are all hypocrits...and need some classes!

79 posted on 10/21/2002 1:07:28 PM PDT by Sungirl
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To: Frohickey
Oh spare me....You do canned hunting too?
80 posted on 10/21/2002 1:08:47 PM PDT by Sungirl
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