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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
You know, seriously - if I lived in the area (I assume you don't, either), and I drove a white van, I would be perfectly happy to pull over and step out of it so they could rule me out. No problem.

You're right, I don't. But it is irrelevant if either of us does or not.

I have no problem with what you describe here. But then you add guns drawn, handcuff me, put me on the asphalt...I have problems. I also have inalienable rights and (assuming we still live under the rule of law-big assumption these days) I have civil rights under the law.

Unless martial law is established the rule of law trumps any emergency in a constitutional republic.

850 posted on 10/20/2002 9:17:49 PM PDT by TigersEye
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To: TigersEye
You're right, I don't. But it is irrelevant if either of us does or not.

I think it is relevant. Do you think the people in D.C. mind cooperating with police on this half as much as people who are breaking out in hives about it here? I don't. My guess is they want this solved, and they want it solved yesterday - and the vast majority of them are no doubt eager to do whatever they can to help the police get the job done.

I have no problem with what you describe here. But then you add guns drawn, handcuff me, put me on the asphalt...I have problems. I also have inalienable rights and (assuming we still live under the rule of law-big assumption these days) I have civil rights under the law.

Why is that man in the photograph cuffed and on the asphalt - do you know?

866 posted on 10/20/2002 9:29:25 PM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
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To: TigersEye
Unless martial law is established the rule of law trumps any emergency in a constitutional republic.

Fourth Amendment exceptions for car searches have been going on since 1925 for lesser probable cause. All of this occurring without the establishment of martial law and with the favorable rulings from various state supreme courts and the USSC.

868 posted on 10/20/2002 9:30:25 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: TigersEye
zUnless martial law is established the rule of law trumps any emergency in a constitutional republic.

You're gettin there. Keep up the good work inspite of any accidental indeference I may have attributed to you in the past.

878 posted on 10/20/2002 9:33:55 PM PDT by takenoprisoner
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