[McGavin999]

I'm saying that you can't sit at your keyboard and complain about someone being dragged out of a van when you have no idea what was said or what the circumstances are. These officers are going up to strange vehicles within site of a recent killing looking for an obviously dangerous person. That is not the time to be spouting off about Article IV.

The Constitution was written for the people. It was written so the average uneducated American of an agricultural society in the 1700's could understand and function as an individual most of the time, and as a united people during times of duress. This is obviously a time of duress.

I have a deep and abiding love of the Constitution. I'm sick of it being twisted to mean whatever anyone wants it to mean. It means exactly what it says. Article IV protects us against unreasonable search and seizure. There is NOTHING unreasonable about asking to search a vehicle of whatever color on a street that has been used as an escape route immediately following another bloody and senseless crime.

This is not Iraq, this will never be Iraq. If the government just decided to throw up a roadblock to check vehicles for miscellaneous guns it would be a different matter, but obviously, that is not the case here. I find it ridiculous that anyone would even try to equate the two. If we don't start pulling together as a country we're never going to defeat the threats we are facing. Bashing the police for trying to protect us under these circumstances are not only counterproductive, they are downright dangerous.

[eddie willers]

There is NOTHING unreasonable about asking to search a vehicle of whatever color on a street that has been used as an escape route immediately following another bloody and senseless crime.

Good comment
Good post.

[HairOfTheDog]

Another excellent post!

If we don't start pulling together as a country we're never going to defeat the threats we are facing. Bashing the police for trying to protect us under these circumstances are not only counterproductive, they are downright dangerous.

[Iron Eagle]

I just read post 256. Thank you. My thoughts exactly. Boy, I love when I get Constitutional and legal interpretations from some of these folks who have NO, and I mean NO, idea about which they speak. My favorite is when they tell me because I am a lawyer, I have become part of the system that corrupts teh true meaning of the Constitution. I had one guy tell me my only job as a lawyer is to know the Constitution backwards and forwards.

The debate has turned south here since I first started lurking in 1999. I keep coming back though, because 10 the people amaze me and 2) it is still great place to see breaking news from multiple sources.

[GirlShortstop]

I'm saying that you can't sit at your keyboard and complain about someone being dragged out of a van when you have no idea what was said or what the circumstances are.    Problem... you speak of "have no idea what was said or what the circumstances are".    Do *you* know all of the circumstances? If not, you are not in a position to blast someone for raising questions or commenting on what they've seen.

[PatrioticAmerican]

"There is NOTHING unreasonable about asking to search a vehicle "

They are not "asking", but demanding at gun point.

This is from someone else:

"I do feel a tad sorry for anyone in VA that owns a white van. Iffin I did, I would paint the damn thing pink and chartruese. The one poor soul I saw last night got out of his van with a shotgun, AR and pistol pointed at him. Someone is going to have a heart attack before this is over with.

STOP THE MADNESS! "