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Drivers of White Vans are being treated as criminals
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Posted on 10/20/2002 7:48:19 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: Roscoe
"I think Benjamin Franklin had a different views of what constitutes "essential liberty." "He that does not like civil Society on these Terms, let him retire and live among Savages. He can have no right to the benefits of Society, who will not pay his Club towards the Support of it." -- Benjamin Franklin "
Perhaps you can explain what the quote you pulled out has to do with essential Liberty.
To: TigersEye
You know, seriously - if I lived in the area (I assume you don't, either), and I drove a white van, I would be perfectly happy to pull over and step out of it so they could rule me out. No problem. The police ask very little for the service they provide, and I want them to catch this guy. If my pulling over helps, then GREAT.
If that's the only clue they have, then it would be cool of you to do what you can to work with them to use it, imo.
I was once profiled this way. I was driving a blue car, coming out of a parking lot, and the police were looking for a female suspect in a blue car - they asked me a couple of questions, and away I went. I wasn't scarred for life, or anything!
To: Texasforever
If we had an eye in the sky somehow, which could zoom in on the site of a sniping the instant it was reported. That would eliminate this Chinese fire drill looking for the white van.
To: takenoprisoner
No that's it. Just brutal honesty. You're a nutcake.
To: Roscoe
"He that does not like civil Society on these Terms, let him retire and live among Savages. He can have no right to the benefits of Society, who will not pay his Club towards the Support of it."
To whom was he refering?
To: takenoprisoner
I made it very clear to you what truth I was speaking of. My LOL was to a poster, certainly not about someone's tragic circumstances.
To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
I think the cop just made that up to try and get your phone number. ;-D
To: takenoprisoner
Laugh at will so you desire and as you wish. Is English your first language?
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posted on
10/20/2002 9:03:22 PM PDT
by
justshe
To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
Given that one of these massive dragnets is likely to happen on a near daily basis, perhaps the cops ought to get on the TV and explain to John Q. Public what he ought to do when his white van is stopped in one.
To: realpatriot71
However, I do have a problem pulling people out of their vehicle at gunpoint, handcuffing them, and making them to lay on ground when there is no evidence that they have committed any crime. What was their crime - driving a white van? It's a violation of their civil liberties.I apologize for misunderstanding your position, but I still think you're overreacting to these photographs.
If they are concerned that a suspect they are searching for is armed, what would you have them approach the vehicle with - a bouquet? They do that for safety. Not just their own. For the safety of everyone on the road. That includes you.
Secondly, how many people in this situation have been put on the ground and cuffed, and why? Do you know the answer to either of those questions?
To: straightbend
I have never posted on a thread, I mostly read and try to evaluate what is going on but this has been ...the next step in your addiction, my FRiend! You can never go back to lurking now...!
To: TigersEye
No that's it. Just brutal honesty. You're a nutcake. Then I shall take that as a compliment. Thanks...forever a "nutcake."
To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
...is that about right?That's about close to hysterical emotionalism on your part. This is far and away not the first case of a multiple murder case. What its proximity to our nations capitol has to do with anything is beyond me.
To: Sir Gawain
I think the cop just made that up to try and get your phone number. ;-DSure, sure... : )
To: Roscoe
You mean he wasn't an anarchist? ; )
To: TigersEye
Given that there is at least one white van on every block and every quarter mile of urban road in this country and it wasn't said that the perp had one, just that there was one in the proximity of the crime that's incredibly lame It is also the ONLY thing they have to work with. How would you like to be the head cop in these jurisdictions? They are up against it and it is not just Chief Moose it is every county that the sniper has hit. There may not be a white van but if and when the sniper is found in a white van then the cops would be ran out of town if they had ignored witness reports. I can't believe the anal-retentive wannabe constitutional scholars that cannot apply the most rudimentary element of common sense to their arguments.
To: TankerKC
Yeah, well I've noticed you tend to zero in on the really important stuff. I was defending a lady. Try it sometime.
To: McGavin999
Boy, did you nail it. Great post.
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posted on
10/20/2002 9:07:55 PM PDT
by
alnick
To: straightbend
RIGHT ON STRAIGHTBEND (whoever you are)
Anti law enforcement is not what this country needs when situations dictate some flexibility needed in attitudes , and we don't need weak charactered women attack dogs that show their asses to everyone.
I think I will just go find a thread that has a little more intelligence on it - and that could be just about any other thread.
To: SamAdams76
But tell me, how is the end result any different when an officer pulls the driver out of the vehicle at gunpoint and has him lie face-down in the pavement? If the van is clean, the van is clean. The officers still have to let them go. Didn't see anyone face down on the pavement but what exactly is your question?
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