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To: independentmind
how the heck do you think that kids are becoming more barbaric, that we're failing more so as a society in child-rearing than we used to? One factor is that men are not strong in the family. The wife can kick them out any time she wants, the police will back her up. Who will discipline and lead the children if the men are discouraged from their roles by this new regime which you encourage?

Yeah, kids are growing up monsters. In elementary schools all the authority figures are either female or male homosexuals. The boys are being turned off to schools systematically by femi-nazis who control those schools. Look how for every 1 girl is on ritalin they put 7 boys on it. Look how 80% of achievers in school now grades 1-12 are female. Look how 55% of college students are female.

We are building disaster and dysfunctionalism for our nation's future. The destruction of marriage by dangling divorce incentives in front of the women and the systematic unjust treatment of men who've fallen into the divorce trap are each just part of the picture going on here.

For families to work the men need to be allowed to be fathers and husbands. This means the man is boss of the family. This means the women accept their roles that god gave them. If the woman wants out, or the man wants out, then the government should facilitate that choice. But the government should not undermine the man's role in the family by intervening with these divorce incentives. That is civilizational suicide.
123 posted on 10/20/2002 11:10:26 AM PDT by Red Jones
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To: Red Jones
The destruction of marriage by dangling divorce incentives in front of the women and the systematic unjust treatment of men who've fallen into the divorce trap are each just part of the picture going on here.

Oh, please, Red! For every story you can recount about a woman just up and walking out on her husband, I can get right back at you with women who have put up with wife beaters, or drunks, or men who work until 10:00 at night and on weekends, or who bang the old girlfriend when she comes to town.

This pity party for men who marry, who know what they're getting into when they marry, then end up having to pay child support because the marriage doesn't work out (and it DOES take two to make a marriage work; there are usually no saints in these relationships) is very strange. For every guy that gets screwed by the system, there are five who skate on their responsibilities. It's unfortunate that some men have to suffer for the actions of the louts.

151 posted on 10/20/2002 11:27:58 AM PDT by sinkspur
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To: Red Jones
The boys are being turned off to schools systematically by femi-nazis who control those schools. Look how for every 1 girl is on ritalin they put 7 boys on it. Look how 80% of achievers in school now grades 1-12 are female. Look how 55% of college students are female. We are building disaster and dysfunctionalism for our nation's future. The destruction of marriage by dangling divorce incentives in front of the women and the systematic unjust treatment of men who've fallen into the divorce trap are each just part of the picture going on here. For families to work the men need to be allowed to be fathers and husbands. This means the man is boss of the family. This means the women accept their roles that god gave them. If the woman wants out, or the man wants out, then the government should facilitate that choice. But the government should not undermine the man's role in the family by intervening with these divorce incentives. That is civilizational suicide.

Good points.

262 posted on 10/20/2002 4:48:28 PM PDT by Z in Oregon
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