Ashland Shooting: Sunday Updates

Various ^ | 10-20-02 | GRRRRR

[GRRRRR]

The other thread is running over 2800 posts...so here's a new place to post for Sunday.

Per FOXNews, a 10am EASTERN news conference is planned. Two travelers pulled off I-95 for dinner at a Ponderosa Steak House. The Man, 37, was shot in the gut while his wife stood next to him.

Bullet has NOT been removed from the man while, after surgery, he remains in Critical but GUARDED condition, however, x-rays are expected to provide some dimensional analysis of the slug. Further surgeries may be required on the victim, according to FOX and then the bullet is likely to be recovered.

Meanwhile, the "white" box truck/van that was found with a "Shell" in it at Dulles is reported to be a 7.62 (.030'??) OLD shell and NOT expected to be part of the "Sniper Shootings".

Multiple LEA's are now in Ashland, VA located about 80 miles south of DC to begin more site investigations at first light of dawn.

Numerous witnesses in the area saw the man fall down and provided aid to the man. The man was still conscious and spoke during the rescue. According to (spit) CNN, there will be NO news conferences from the hospital.

Over to you Laurie Dhue...GRRRRRollin'

[Goldwater Girl]

"worst truth" is right- I keep thinking about all those sleepers soaking up this news coverage....interviews with panicky people, dopey cops, phony witnesses. It's like a primer for them.

[John Jamieson]

Let's try to predict when the police and press will finally admit that these shootings are likely to be international terrorism.

Will it be victim 20, 50 or 100?

Will it be city 4, 7, or 10?

Will different bullets be just copy cats, or unrelated, or just different cells?

12 (or maybe 13) shootings now and essentially no clues, Ya, just your average white boy with a gun. Give me a break.

[Moose-Owie]

Someone asked for a poll on who thinks the shooter is Middle Eastern terrorist versus a psycho. So, those so inclined, go ahead and cast your vote.

By the way, for some reason the back to site link will not return you back to FR, but redirects. Just back out or reload the thread. (I don't know why it won't return to FR)

[OReilly]

...when the police and press will finally admit that these shootings are likely to be international terrorism

I can almost hear someone like Tommy Thompson being trotted out to say, this is just an isolated incident(s), it could be an outdoorsman (they might pick Ridge to try and do it, I hope they just face up to it)

[texasbluebell]

I have not seen the ethnicity of the victim of the Sept. 14 shooting identified. Can somebody please post his name? I know it's been reported.

I'm getting back to this thread late, so if someone has already answered this, sorry. But I heard that victim speak last weekend on a couple of reports, and while I don't remember his name, he definitely seemed to be Indian (East, that is).

[Merovingian]

channel 7 says now only ONE news conference...from Rockville..

[johnny7]

Will it be victim 20, 50 or 100?

Could be after #50... but the police will still have no leads.

They are comfortable writing citatations and preventing riots if they know about them before they start.

They are not good at fly-by shootings except for calling an ambulance.

They are just municipal workers with a side-arm, no more, no less.

This resembled an AQ scenario after the first 5. The police have to claim otherwise to cover their ass.

[OReilly]

Hmmmm.... 2 minute warning for Rockville says CNN

[OReilly]

CNN says two more coming after Rockville

[fight_truth_decay]

Don't be sorry to disagree,it is your right to do so. Something this Country has always allowed you.. the freedom to do.However your ancestors may had fear of the American Indian,the Yanks or those of Union Army,the Germans, the Japanese..was it then the origination of the dark green window shades installed in the windows of many homes to shut out the light in FEAR of a night air raid?..Now it is of Muslims..and soon it may be N. Korea or the China. The difference is your grandparents did not have the media 24/7 building your anxiety to a new thresh hold of fear..videos of beheadings in Afghanistan, children gunned down in a schoolyard by a fellow student, 9/11 to frames of a blood spattered van in the DC area. You can no longer protect your children from acts of terrorism as your family once protected your innocence by choosing what to discuss with you and what not. Boring is good!Appreciate it! We in this Country have lived sheltered lives for the most part. So disinterested that many don't even take the time to cast a vote.

[Merovingian]

Really....? Something's up.....OR really really scrambling...

[VoteHarryBrowne2000]

Perhaps he was out of tin foil! ;) Actually it was raining or threatening to rain today, up here in MD at least.

[OReilly]

Really Scrambling is likely in my book...

I'm betting Rockville will say it was not 223 brass but they are still doing tests.

[fight_truth_decay]

Agree 100%..!!!He might even stick around after an attack and leave much later.

[Merovingian]

not 223 brass but they are still doing tests.

Well hell, ole Ted Kingfish Williams already told us that!

this is a LONG 2 minutes!

[wardaddy]

Thanks for the link.....did anyone see that cretin ex-FBI superagent Coulson on Tony Snow this morning......scary......that FBI arsewipe was all over himself trying to rationailze the perp(s) was a white hate group nutjob.

Those are the types of Feds we RKBA folks are going to have to watch out for.....forever I fear.

[OReilly]

this is a LONG 2 minutes!

I'm begining to think these guys are using false 2 minute warnings as cliff hangers.

[Moose-Owie]

It will probably take a while for people to find the poll. Will leave it for a while and if a new thread on the shootings gets posted, I'll pop it in there, for others. Being buried in this thread may not attract many voters.

Psychos covers a lot of territory, but the main idea at this point is to determine ME involvement opposed to homegrown nutcase.

[OReilly]

CNN just took a camera back into the treeline behind the Pondarossa. Errie and much lower than the parking lot elevation

[OReilly]

1 to 2 acres of woods behind the Pondarossa. A dirt road runs right behind the stand of trees.