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To: MadIvan
The Jews better wake up and smell the coffee. For whatever reason (I think it's envy) anti-semitism is rampant. My 92 year old father, a WWII veteran and lifelong roosevelt democrat, thinks Israel is to blame for all the troubles in the middle east.

My visiting father-in-law -- born in India of missionary parents, a pacifist in WWII -- saw a documentary on Ann Frank yesterday. My wife asked him what he thought, and he said "Those people probably got what they deserved."

I nearly fell over. This is the "Greatest Generation"? My own flesh and blood? I'm so ashamed. I don't even know how to begin thinking about this.

I do know, however, how the Jews who have supported the democrats all these decades should begin thinking about it. The democrats have moved on to what they perceive as a bigger block of voters. Just as democrats were soft on Stalin, they are now soft on Islam.

214 posted on 11/01/2002 8:55:58 AM PST by js1138
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To: js1138
My visiting father-in-law -- born in India of missionary parents, a pacifist in WWII -- saw a documentary on Ann Frank yesterday. My wife asked him what he thought, and he said "Those people probably got what they deserved."

I have visited Auschwitz. I'm a Gentile, but seeing that was enough to make me want to put to the sword anyone who felt that way. Anti-Semitism is evil and has evil consequences.

Regards, Ivan

216 posted on 11/01/2002 8:59:46 AM PST by MadIvan
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To: js1138
First of all, G-d bless the purity of your sould and the streangth of your convictions. I say that because I know how hard (and costly) it is to keep them in confrontation with one's flesh and blood.

And you are absolutely right about the wake-up call. When Jewsish kids cannot safely walk on American campuses, believe me, Jews sense that "time have changed." I am Jewish, and it pains me to see how many of my co-religionists, just like many from good Christian homes, have forsaken the traditional Judeo-Christian values for the leftist ideology. For most it is a utopian "love of mankind." They fail to see that the wold is full of those who love mankind and hate people.

The Jews have much more in common with true Christians, but the age-old apprehension learned in Europe does not make them see that. I think the younger generation will be more conservative, but what it portains for the furture, I do not know. Every time gasoline prices go up, new Buchanans emerge to tell us that "they are fighting us here because we are over there;" it's all because of Jews (Israel and its "amen corner" as Buchanan calls them). Anti-Semitism was alive and well in America for centuries and has become hugely unpopular after the Holocaust. But for how long will that last?

You are right, Jews better wake up.

Once awake, though, what is there for them to do? One will say that it's Israel; another will claim "Jewish conspiracy;" the third will say, as many did for centuries, that Jews make matzos on the blood of Christian adolescents; the fourth will claim that Jews inventied and imposed communism (very popular now in Eastern Europe and Russia: those 5 million poor, uneducated, provincial and unworldly Jews, you see, tricked 500 million poor Slavs into communism and then twisted arms behind their backs; without those Jews, the Russia would still be trarist, you see).

In the end, the world simply does not forgive for living and failure to be extinguished. Moreover, we even have hubris of setting high standards for the children, as a result of which many succeed in the professions. If someone hates your existence, there is noting you can do but die to appease; your behavior is irrelevant. The world similarly hates Roma (Gypsies), but is not so agitated: since many of them are not highly educated, it is hard to feel envy and threat.

Sorry for the post that became longer than I intended. Most of all, I wanted to say thank you: it is people like you that preserve conscience in this world. G-d bless you and keep you.

221 posted on 11/01/2002 9:30:36 AM PST by TopQuark
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