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Gays Make Right Turn
Front Page Magazine ^ | October 18, 2002 | Joseph J. Sabia

Posted on 10/18/2002 5:43:17 PM PDT by M 91 u2 K

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To: FF578
I have no great love for fudgepackers either but if they vote Republican fine.
41 posted on 10/18/2002 8:13:04 PM PDT by weikel
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To: Jorge
We are not talking about God's Forgiveness for sin. We are talking about Man's law. Specifically Man's law that must reflect God's law.

Are you saying that the Puritans, John Calvin, and the Founders were wrong?

We condemn murder's, thieves, Robbers, and rapists every day. Homosexuals, Fornicators and Adulterers fall in the same category.

Look at the 1815, The Pennsylvania Supreme Court decision again: It reflects the case law of the day, and the attitude on which our nation was founded.)

This court is...invested with power to punish not only open violations of decency and morality, but also whatever secretly tends to undermine the principles of society... Whatever tends to the destruction of morality, in general, may be punishable criminally. Crimes are public offenses, not because they are perpetrated publically, but because their effect is to injure the public. Buglary, though done in secret, is a public offense; and secretly destroying fences is indictable.

Hence it follows, that an offense may be punishable, if in it's nature and by it's example, it tends to the corruption or morals; although it not be committed in public.

Although every immoral act, such as lying, ect... is not indictable, yet where the offense charged is destructive of morality in general...it is punishable at common law. The destruction of morality renders the power of government invalid...

No man is permitted to corrupt the morals of the people, secret poision cannot be thus desseminated.

42 posted on 10/18/2002 8:14:43 PM PDT by FF578
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To: HassanBenSobar
The Taliban was a bunch of homos I heard that in the Arab world where they don't see women generally its pretty rampant.
43 posted on 10/18/2002 8:15:17 PM PDT by weikel
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To: Mordoch
Arren't you late for the Sullivan orgy?

nah, I am busy documenting the 10 commandments you have broken. I have observed the speck in my eye, and I am glaring at a mountain full of logs in yours little buddy.

44 posted on 10/18/2002 8:17:19 PM PDT by dogbyte12
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To: FF578
How do you reconcile your statements about homosexuality being evil and deserving capital punishment with Jesus' statement that the greatest comandment was to "love the Lord thy God with all thy heart and all thy soul and to love thy neighbor as thyself?

Ever heard of hating the sin but loving the sinner?

Your brand of "Christianity" killed a lot of God's children during the Crusades. Thankfully your viewpoint is not only a minority viewpoint, but also incorrect.

You'll be on my prayer list.

45 posted on 10/18/2002 8:19:22 PM PDT by Abundy
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To: FF578
We are not talking about God's Forgiveness for sin.

Sure you were..here is your own quote that I was responding to;

FF578"Jesus has the power to forgive, Jesus had the right to tell the adulteress she was forgiven because Jesus is Almighty God. He also said "Go and Sin no more."

So you were talking about God's forgiveness..... unless you don't consider Jesus to be God incarnate.

46 posted on 10/18/2002 8:24:16 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: Abundy
Well in light of recent events the Crusades seem like a good thing.
47 posted on 10/18/2002 8:25:03 PM PDT by weikel
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To: Abundy
Should we have capital punishment for murderers?
48 posted on 10/18/2002 8:25:25 PM PDT by FF578
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To: Radioactive
Maybe they should be called Log rammin Republicans.

LOL! As long as they vote Republican and ram it to Demoncrats.

49 posted on 10/18/2002 8:29:57 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: Jorge
Maybe you were talking about God's forgivness of sin.

You are totally missing my point.

Jesus was able to forgive because he is God. Man cannot forgive sin. Man's law is different than God's law, (although man's law must attempt to reflect God's law.)

As for God's law on Homosexuality it is clear.

Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders 10nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. 1 Cor 1:9-10 (NKJV)

God will punish homosexuality, fornication and adultery in his way, but that does not relieve man of his responsibility to prohibit behavior under our law that destroys public morality.

This is what I am talking about. This is what our founders believed, this is what the Puritans believed, this is what John Calvin believed.

50 posted on 10/18/2002 8:32:22 PM PDT by FF578
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To: M 91 u2 K
"ruffled the feathers of some gays"

That's funny.

51 posted on 10/18/2002 8:33:13 PM PDT by Contra
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To: FF578
And where does is say for man's law to prosecute those for those types of crimes in the New Testament, more specifically Jesus?

You'd be better off spending your energies to convince people of the errors of their ways than you would playing super spy of the bedroom.

52 posted on 10/18/2002 8:35:11 PM PDT by rb22982
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To: FF578
...your 4000+ word post....

Shakespeare said, “Brevity is the soul of wit.”

53 posted on 10/18/2002 8:35:22 PM PDT by ChuxsterS
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To: FF578
Should we have capital punishment for murderers?

You are not seriously comparing homosexuals or adulterers to murderers, are you?

54 posted on 10/18/2002 8:35:33 PM PDT by Double Tap
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To: Abundy
"Bad men cannot make good citizens. A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience are incompatible with freedom." Patrick Henry

"Religion and virtue are the only foundations, not only of all free government, but of social felicity under all governments and in all the combinations of human society." John Adams

55 posted on 10/18/2002 8:36:51 PM PDT by FF578
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To: Double Tap
Yes.
56 posted on 10/18/2002 8:37:22 PM PDT by FF578
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To: FF578
Murder directly violates the rights of others, some guy packing some other guy up the rear in his own home does not. As long as I don't have to watch it, I prefer to let God handle them, and just pray for them.
57 posted on 10/18/2002 8:37:26 PM PDT by rb22982
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To: FF578
Then you are a lost cause.
58 posted on 10/18/2002 8:38:05 PM PDT by rb22982
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To: rb22982
"Human law must rest its authority ultimately upon the authority of that law which is divine....Far from being rivals or enemies, religion and law are twin sisters, friends, and mutual assistants. Indeed, these two sciences run into each other."James Wilson, a signer of the Constitution and an original Justice on the U.S. Supreme Court
59 posted on 10/18/2002 8:40:13 PM PDT by FF578
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To: FF578
So you really are advocating capitol punishment, the death penalty, for fornicators, homos and adulterers?
60 posted on 10/18/2002 8:40:56 PM PDT by Double Tap
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