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To: Steely Tom
I have to say, however, that I just find the possibility that the DC attacks are moslem terrorism to be hard to believe. Not that it couldn't be the case, but it would be so stupid on their part. It strains credulity to imagine that the people behind Al Queda or the Waqf or whatever it is could be this assinine.

I'm afraid I don't see why you would call this kind of terrorism is "so stupid". One of the stated goals of AQ is to disrupt the American economy. Suppressing the public's willingness to go out (by shooting people randomly, including at gas stations, malls, and store parking lots), for even a moderate percentage of the people, would have such an effect.

Another goal would be to instill a sense of helplessness in the populace by demonstrating that the government cannot protect the people (the fallacy of this belief notwithstanding - but that's a second amendment issue). From all reports, there is certainly such a feeling growing in the hearts and minds of many DC area residents, if not the nation.

While a sniping tactic is certainly reprehensible, it is certainly a less costly alternative to other unprecedented attacks like 9/11.

Because the Islamofascits believe the worst of American culture - and that we cower when threatened (a la Black Hawk Down, the USS Coles, etc.) - the sniping would be aimed at enabling the gun grabbers while instilling general fear.

Having said all that, I'll finish by saying that it is my opinion that a foreign controlled (Islamic) terror cell is behind the sniping, but that the truth will only be known when the perps are caught. Let's all pray that this happens soon.

79 posted on 10/18/2002 12:33:23 PM PDT by MortMan
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To: MortMan
If Iraq is funding and supplying al Qaeda, mounting this limited sniper attack could be meant to deter, like the anthrax. A threat of bigger things to come.
81 posted on 10/18/2002 12:40:31 PM PDT by aristeides
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To: MortMan
I'm afraid I don't see why you would call this kind of terrorism is "so stupid". One of the stated goals of AQ is to disrupt the American economy. Suppressing the public's willingness to go out (by shooting people randomly, including at gas stations, malls, and store parking lots), for even a moderate percentage of the people, would have such an effect.

Another goal would be to instill a sense of helplessness in the populace by demonstrating that the government cannot protect the people (the fallacy of this belief notwithstanding - but that's a second amendment issue). From all reports, there is certainly such a feeling growing in the hearts and minds of many DC area residents, if not the nation.

Good points. The reason I said I thought it would be stupid is because of what I think of as the "gain factor" (for want of a better term). By this I mean the amount of "good effect" (from AQ's point of view) in comparison to the amount of "bad effect." What I mean is that for each increment of disruption of our economy or of our sense of security/helplessness, these sniper incidents cause a huge increase in the amount of anger and and committment on the part of the population. For example, it seems to me clear that AQ is in a de facto alliance with the Democrats. The Democrats are in many practical ways carrying AQ's water; I'm not arguing here that the Dems are actually in an alliance with AQ, mearly that the goals of of the Democrats are in many practical ways (being against tighter immigration controls, being against military action in the ME, being against "racial profiling" and other law enforcement actions that would tend to focus resources directly on the threat) aligned with those of the AQ.

These sniper attacks have the effect of strongly helping the GOP get its message out, and they cause a net supression of the Democrats message. They are going to undercut Democrat's core support from their base, and this is not helpful to the goals of the AQ.

If the AQ and the brains behind the AQ understood history, they would have learned from the British example during the Nazi air attacks against London that this sort of psychological attacks -- trying to "demoralize" a population by inflicting painful tragedy on some subset of the population -- only serves to stiffen the resolve of the population by unifying it and focussing its attention and will. The AQ apparantly have no real appreciation of the enormous size of the United States, and the degree to which its population and wealth are dispersed over a huge area. I don't care how many cells they have in our country, they cannot kill or even instill daily fear in more than a tiny minority (say 10%) of the population, and long before the percentage reached that level their would be a huge reaction, resulting in the expulsion or internment of many many ME immigrants, the roll-up of their financial networks, etc. etc.

There are other examples of the "gain factor" problem I could cite, but I've already rambled on too long.

Anyway, this is only one of the reasons I think it would be stupid. Another is that it is, in effect, walking up to a heavily armed professional killer and peeing on his shoes, or spitting in his face, whatever. You are only giving him an excuse to do what he already really wants to do, which is stomp the crap out of you.

(steely)

111 posted on 10/18/2002 2:56:06 PM PDT by Steely Tom
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