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To: LostTribe
Lost Tribe,

Thanks for your cordial response.

OK, I must say I don't have any idea where this information you posted has it's source. You may be right...

But I must add that as a seminary graduate and teacher, I don't believe your understanding of Mathew 10:5... is correct. Gentiles were non Jews and Samaritans were half Jews (origin: sometime after 722 BC when Assyria conquered the northern kingdom, it moved the conquered people of northern Mesopotamia into Israel where intermarriage took place.

The kindom message of Christ was aimed at God's covenant peoples - the Jews - who were lost.

Now, here's the great thing... I still wish you the best. In comparison with understanding our need of a Savior, this is a minor point of discussion.

best, AMPU

80 posted on 10/17/2002 8:03:01 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
>Thanks for your cordial response.

My pleasure.  It is a joy to visit with someone who's knowledge is honestly grounded and opinions are carefully considered.  Those opinions are always worth careful review and extended thought.

>OK, I must say I don't have any idea where this information you posted has it's source. You may be right...

I can only take responsibility for myself.  {ggg}.  It either works, or it doesn't.

>But I must add that as a seminary graduate and teacher,

Nice to meet another one!  I have numerous ex-College roomates who are mainline Seminary Teachers, Pastors, College Deans, etc.  My own formal Theological training is more humble, but still better than 99% of what you see on TV (for what very little that is worth!) and better by far than many who are pastoring parishes in America.  In addition, I did post-Doctoral work in Biblical Archeology at both Oxford University and University of Dublin (Trinity College), plus extensive global travel and museum hopping, including most of the worlds major Celtic sites.  But enough pedigree sniffing. {ggg}.

> I don't believe your understanding of Mathew 10:5... is correct.

Fair enough.

>Gentiles were non Jews and Samaritans were half Jews (origin: sometime after 722 BC when Assyria conquered the northern kingdom, it moved the conquered people of northern Mesopotamia into Israel where intermarriage took place.

Undoubtely some of that did take place.  At least that is the default position taken by historians who can never say "I really don't know" and have to some up with some sort of answer that is not easily challengable.  (It also fails to address the generic nature of the word GENTILE, bastardized over history with a specific meaning.  It is of the nature of the word holocaust, a generic word until given a specific context.)

But if there is serious evidence that the Assyrians moved 5 MILLION people back to Israel I have not seen it.  Indeed, the evidence indicates the Northern Kingdom joined with the Medes and Persians to overthrow the overextended Assyrians.  Since the Medes and Persians controlled all escape routes except to the north, that is where evidence indicates the Lost Tribes of Israel bailed out for the west and north.  (Josephus and others...)

>The kindom message of Christ was aimed at God's covenant peoples - the Jews - who were lost.

The problem with this position is that Jews are not EXCLUSIVELY Gods' covenant people.  Please carefully review my brief thesis to save the bandwidth here: 3-MINUTE HISTORY. We can then pursue this line of thought if you like.  

>Now, here's the great thing... I still wish you the best. In comparison with understanding our need of a Savior, this is a minor point of discussion.

Absolutely right!  That is truly the GOOD NEWS.  But I feel strongly that if we do not understand who the Lost Tribes of Israel really are, we miss a huge portion of God fulfillment of history.  Hosea 1:10-11 and many other verses can not be reconciled without it. (Beyond that, we make decisions on international politics which are based on terribly flawed premises.)

Cordially...
92 posted on 10/17/2002 8:42:16 PM PDT by LostTribe
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
>... Samaritans were half Jews (origin: sometime after 722 BC when Assyria conquered the northern kingdom, it moved the conquered people of northern Mesopotamia into Israel where intermarriage took place.

On rereading this part of your post I must take issue with the fundamental premise which I assume is that the Israelites who were taken into Assyrian captivity were Jews. This premise is defective since the larger 10 tribed Northern Kingdom was never Jewish. Jews came (later) from the 3 tribes which made up the Southern Kingdom.

173 posted on 10/18/2002 6:58:07 PM PDT by LostTribe
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