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Posted on 10/17/2002 12:52:05 PM PDT by RCW2001
IIRC, the witness who saw the shooters clearly, as they backed out their van, was not the witness who saw and recognized the gun.
How much of this is politics? Pressure from elected officials whose pro-gun-control stance would appear absurd, if this turns out to be a Saudi with a smuggled rifle?
I've met several Iranians, and they seem to have the "not serious" "grinning strangely" aspect to them. Could be genetic.
Actually there are a couple of things. One the shear magnitude of the effort, and the fact that while. as you say. the FFLs are required to maintiain the records, the feds are prohibited from doing so themselves. They can legally trace individual guns, but "forward" tracing is (supposed to be) illegal. I'm pretty sure that the FFLs are not required to turn over their records anytime the BATF asks for them, but are required to provide information on specific weapons in the course of a criminal investigation. Having the records exist at all is dangerous, but not nearly as dangerous as having them all in a BATF computer in the District of Criminals.
That's who I think it is, too. That would be the chief witness. BTW, that never sounded like our shooter.
Seeing that the FBI has "nada" and they are just going through a list of 1000s of gun owners trying to find a clue. I would help them cross me off their list. I would volunteer to go in. And bring my alibis with me. That way they don't waste time with me or my lawyer and continue working the list.
How many FFLs would really dare to refuse a request from the BATF? They know the BATF can put them out of business in a heartbeat.
Having the records exist at all is dangerous, but not nearly as dangerous as having them all in a BATF computer in the District of Criminals
How much has this difference slowed them down in the case at hand?
Eye-witness testimony in doubt? Really?
Since when has eye-witness testimony ever been 100% (TWA800, OKC bombing and JD#2 'sightings' ...)
Have you ever seen the 'spread' of what witnesses claim to have seen regarding AA FLT 587?
"Those accounts were all over the ball park ..."
The CREDIBLE ACCOUNTS on TWA 800 were from those pilots who were IN THE AIR at the time, and in particular, one crew who was BEHIND TWA 800 - and they did NOT report seeing 'a missile' ...
Whether he intended to or not, that would be the effect of what he did. The police had roadblocks looking for the cream-colored van and likely the murderer just drove off in some other vehicle.
I wonder if the police know who he really is, or is he part of the plot and he give them a fake id. I haven't had the time to look at all the threads to see if that issue has been addressed.
I tend to think he is not part of the plot because cnn.com (I know, I know) is reporting that sources say he was in the store at the time of the shooting. If he was part of the plot, you would think he would pre-position himself in a location that would make him a more believable witness.
If his actions aided the escape in any way, I think he should be charged as an accessory after the fact to murder.
...he was in the store at the time of the shooting. If he was part of the plot, you would think he would pre-position himself in a location that would make him a more believable witness."
True..and I bet the feds know by now what grades he had in jr high..
Actually it was Raymond Masis and my spouse and I were trying to place the accent. We thought it was Eastern European.
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