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Sniper Attack Yields Detailed Clues
AP ^ | October 15, 2002, 3:46 PM ET | Allen G. Breed

Posted on 10/15/2002 1:40:44 PM PDT by Scalia Rules

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To: RAT Patrol
Maybe it's like Osama and Usama--either way is correct

In the USA it's Osama. USAma is politically incorrect because it has USA in it.

221 posted on 10/15/2002 8:36:17 PM PDT by Gracey
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To: anymouse
Thanks for the heads up!
222 posted on 10/15/2002 8:57:47 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Scalia Rules
Perhaps the training of Palestinians to be snipers by the CIA was a poor investment on Clintons part? Ya think?
223 posted on 10/15/2002 10:20:10 PM PDT by American in Israel
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To: LPStar
I doubt mulatto will be with us for much longer even though it's still accepted.....the not-to-offend Gestapo will invent a new hyphen. Of course at the same time, new more invective vernacular will be enshrined to label the ever convinient yet evil gun owning white boy.
224 posted on 10/15/2002 10:31:58 PM PDT by wardaddy
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To: anniegetyourgun
Vamoose Chief Moose!

this guy "flustrates" me... After this is over we need to investigate how many died because of cops competing to see who could save face first by capturing the perp(s) on their own. Meanwhile, this ebonics crap has got to stop!

225 posted on 10/15/2002 10:42:50 PM PDT by ALS
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To: Miss Marple
It's a big help, MM. I always appreciate your level-headedness. It stands in stark contrast to some of the bozo theories I see around here which have to rest on an underlying premise that everyone is "in on it." Things just don't work that way, given human nature.

I guess I have a gut feeling that it would be somehow easier to find this sniper to be a terrorist. That way we don't have to see it as the random acts of a whack-job which are virtually unpreventable. At least if it is terrorism, we already have forces, leeway, and dollars mobilized to that kind of organized effort. There isn't anything one can do about a citizen nutcase until he kills.

226 posted on 10/16/2002 4:14:05 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: John Jamieson
Yah sure, no clue here. DC must be, what 9% FBI? Are there any clues you can see?

Well, like everybody else who's been paying attention to this, I've been looking for some sort of consistent pattern. The reason I think that the FBI clerk's shooting was random, is that to think the contrary would imply that all these shootings were some grand plot to cover up the assasination of the FBI clerk, and I don't buy into that, it's too far-fetched, tinfoil hat stuff.

I'd say the best clue so far is the witness who allegedly saw somebody step from the vehicle, point the rifle and shoot the FBI clerk from 40 yards away. That's pretty specific, if it's accurate. It's also a radical departure from his MO in the previous shootings, where he showed consumate skill in NOT being seen. It was very brazen and almost as if he was flaunting his superiority over his pursuers and victims. It was sloppy, or else it was an intentional clue, like the tarot card.

I wonder if the witness was able to tell what kind of gun the shooter was using. Because if he says it was a military style semi-auto, where's the brass from the last shooting? Even this could be a false lead put out by somebody just wanting their 15 minutes of fame.

If you check out the crime scenes, it becomes obvious that all these shootings took place very close to a freeway exit/entrance. Most of the shootings were within a couple of blocks. I think this last one was the farthest from the freeway. So I think it's a fairly good assumption that whoever is doing this is selecting victims who are close to the freeways, and until this latest shooting, taking his shots carefully so there are no witnesses.

Most of the shootings have been outside the beltway, and if you plot the days when there were multiple shootings, they start out in the suburbs and work their way back toward northern DC. That's probably where he lives.

The multiples occurred on the first and second day of ths shooting spree. I get the feeling that the perp was surprised and amazed at how easy it was in Aspen Hill, so on his way home, he stopped off in Wheaton and did it again. Then he went home and watched the news. And at that point, they knew they had two shootings, but they didn't even know if they were related.

On Oct. 9, he went into the northern suburbs again. Starting at 7:41 AM, he went from the White Flint area (Montgomery County) to Rockville, Md, then from Rockville to Silver Spring, then Kensington, where he made his 4th shot that morning. Then he probably went home and watched the news.

By then the heat was starting to come on, but he was so flushed with success that in the evening, he needed another adrenalin fix, so he went into downtown Washington for a "capper".

After that, the heat was on so bad that he couldn't risk doing multiple hits, so it's come down to one per day, except for the days he misses. And he has missed both weekends so far. He also stayed home yesterday, when they started announcing the Feds were going to step in.

The man shot in Washington and the FBI clerk were the only shootings inside the beltway, and they both occurred in the evening. Maybe this means something. Maybe he goes on "day trips" out into the outlying areas, but if he still needs an adrenalin rush in the evening, he sticks close to home.

I think this guy is sane enough to adjust his tactics to avoid getting caught, and to him it's an evil game he is playing.

Of course, this doesn't really imply anything WRT who he or they is/are. He's cocky, that's for sure. He could be an Al Quaeda operative, or just another loser with a grudge against society.

They will get this guy when he overestimates his own invulnerability and underestimates the resources that are against him. In other words, when his cockiness overrides his caution.

Pretty speculative stuff, IMHO. What's your take on this?

227 posted on 10/16/2002 6:11:13 AM PDT by Kenton
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To: null and void
LOL
228 posted on 10/16/2002 6:22:27 AM PDT by snippy_about_it
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To: Domestic Church
"...if I happened to be in my car and saw somebody get out of his car and shoot somebody and get back into his car I would try to ram his car and worry about dealing with the insurance company at a latter time."

This bears repeating. This would be an interesting modus operandi for John Q Public...and if word got out on this bumper car technique then we would catch these snipers faster. Time to keep Todd Beamer in mind!

People do NOT try this unless you are at least as well armed as the perp you ram. And you must be prepared to kill. Most people are not, and finding out that you are one of those after ramming an armed terrorists car may prove fatal to you, armed or not. Better advice...get as good a discription of the shooter as you can while making yourself the smallest possible target.

229 posted on 10/16/2002 6:46:38 AM PDT by KDD
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To: _Jim
You mean the parking decals in the window weren't a giveaway?

Never thought of that. Of course the implication here then is that all these other shootings have been a smokescreen to cover up the assassination of a low-ranking FBI employee, and that seems to be quite a stretch.

230 posted on 10/16/2002 6:55:58 AM PDT by Kenton
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To: Kenton
After that, the heat was on so bad that he couldn't risk doing multiple hits, so it's come down to one per day, except for the days he misses. And he has missed both weekends so far. He also stayed home yesterday, when they started announcing the Feds were going to step in.

Monday was a Government holiday. Less traffic to disappear into. (Or mommy and daddy are home so the kid can't go out and play)...

231 posted on 10/16/2002 7:19:44 AM PDT by null and void
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To: Fred Mertz
But the man driving the white van MUST have been the shooter - after all, he was "agitated"!

I've never seen anyone get agitated in a parking lot before, have you?

/sarcasm
232 posted on 10/16/2002 8:03:25 AM PDT by Redbob
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To: Kenton
Well thought out.

I too, think the first days contain lots of clues, as well as the no weekends or Tuesdays. I don't see why he dropped to one a day and I don't see how Fredericksburg fits in.

Fredericksburg has to be another shooter (cell) in my terrorists theory. I don't believe the police can match the bullets to one gun, just one type of gun.

This guy can't last much longer. I'm expecting a big shootout at the end. And, then a major cleaning of these known cells.
233 posted on 10/16/2002 2:03:07 PM PDT by John Jamieson
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To: Kenton
This a pretty small bullet, a 82% kill ratio indicates either head shot or heart shot. This guy is very good otherwise we'd have misses and more people in the hospital.
234 posted on 10/16/2002 2:09:31 PM PDT by John Jamieson
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To: JackOfVA
"Lot of ways out of Seven Corners. Might be wise to avoid 110 though, as I believe the Va State Troopers and Pentagon Police are still stationed on 110 to enforce the "no trucks" ban. Have not been on 110 for some months though, so perhaps someone that travels that route more frequently can comment."

I wasn't thinking of that. You're right. 110 has had even more police cars in the past few weeks.


235 posted on 10/16/2002 3:39:55 PM PDT by SpencerRoane
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To: bvw
And leather gloves do shrink when they get wet.
236 posted on 10/16/2002 9:52:45 PM PDT by ILoveUSA
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To: John Jamieson
I too, think the first days contain lots of clues, as well as the no weekends or Tuesdays. I don't see why he dropped to one a day and I don't see how Fredericksburg fits in.

This is just a hunch... If you look at the pattern, we had two days of multiple shootings in the northern suburbs. The evening of the first day, there was publicity, but they hadn't yet determined that the two shootings were connected.

On day 2, he shot 4 people in the morning, and after that, the was no doubt that all these shootings seemed to be tied together. At that point, a very disorganized manhunt was beginning. He had finally gotten their attention. And just to drive the point home, he went out and shot a guy in downtown DC that evening.

Now, he's watching FNC every time he's home, because they are the "All-Sniper, All the Time" network this week. He knows that the authorities are mustering in Montgomery County to begin a serious hunt for him. There are roadblocks beginning. So he decides, just to throw them off, to go off in a completely new direction - many miles to the southwest, far away from the previous shootings, yet still easily accessible by freeway. Because he knows that the search is concentrated in the northwest near suburbs. That's why he chose Fredricksburg, I think.

After that, he purposely bounces around rather than conform to an easily identifiable pattern. He modifies his MO based upon the intelligence he gathers from the news.

237 posted on 10/17/2002 5:20:38 AM PDT by Kenton
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To: John Jamieson
I don't see why he dropped to one a day

Probably because his early multiple shootings were done in an information vacuum. The first day, all they knew was the had a couple of shootings in the DC area, nothing all that unusual about that. After the second day's carnage, he knew that the element of surprise was gone, so he couldn't risk multiple shootings, and he had to take his handiwork someplace he hadn't been before, because Montgomery County was too hot.

238 posted on 10/17/2002 5:31:24 AM PDT by Kenton
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