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Beltway Sniper Shootings-FR Commentary-Tuesday, Oct. 15
Fox News, CNN, Press Conferences | October 15, 2002 | Fox News, CNN, Press Conferences

Posted on 10/15/2002 2:17:07 AM PDT by Peach

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To: ET(end tyranny)
Has this latest victim been identified yet?
81 posted on 10/15/2002 5:27:58 AM PDT by SternTrek
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To: angkor
Good post, angkor --- I think you just told us where the nest is.

BTTT.

82 posted on 10/15/2002 5:31:08 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: angkor
Please explain why Rt 7 West or Rt 50 west would not be viable options.

Thank you
83 posted on 10/15/2002 5:31:16 AM PDT by harpseal
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To: xsmommy
they saw the shooter exit and take the shot at the ENTRANCE Of home depot?

There's the entrance directly at the front of the store (actually from both sides), and another entrance into the parking lot directly off the Rt. 50 access road, and next to the rear of the Fortune restaurant.

84 posted on 10/15/2002 5:34:45 AM PDT by angkor
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To: aristeides
Should this turn out to be the work of an Islamic terrorist (or cell), I'm afraid we're going to be in for a long, dark struggle. I think about the upcoming Christmas shopping season and the possibility of this happening all over our country. I'm hoping the killer is a lone murderous nutcase that is apprehended very soon.
85 posted on 10/15/2002 5:35:50 AM PDT by Quilla
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To: Quilla
We may still have time to intern and deport before the Christmas shopping season. FDR did it through a mere executive order.
86 posted on 10/15/2002 5:38:49 AM PDT by aristeides
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To: xsmommy
Think they said last night that she was about 30 yards from the Home Depot exit doors.

What struck me is that she was supposed to have been in the covered portion of the parking lot/garage. Just watching the scene afterward, it looks like there wouldn't be much room at all (clearance) between the roof of the covered area and the tops of other vehicles in the rest of the parking lot.

Is there any area that is slightly elevated?

87 posted on 10/15/2002 5:39:42 AM PDT by ET(end tyranny)
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To: SternTrek
I haven't heard a name, just white female, and I think I heard 30 years old.
88 posted on 10/15/2002 5:40:41 AM PDT by ET(end tyranny)
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To: vollmond
If there are a couple more shootings like this without catching the perp(s), they'll probably cancel the Marine Corp Marathon.

If the shooter(s) are smart, then they wouldn't dare mess with the Corps. Unarmed or not, dealing with hundreds of very pissed-off Marines is not generally a survivable experience.

89 posted on 10/15/2002 5:41:15 AM PDT by Chemist_Geek
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To: xsmommy
Someone have an intelsat photo they could point us to?

Or an aerial photo? Just paste up the URL, I'll find it.

90 posted on 10/15/2002 5:45:12 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: angkor
"they would then be only 5 to 10 minutes from one of the largest Muslim enclaves in all of DC Metro"

Are you refering to Herndon?

91 posted on 10/15/2002 5:46:09 AM PDT by AGreatPer
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To: Peach
ping
92 posted on 10/15/2002 5:47:12 AM PDT by sonrise57
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To: ET(end tyranny)
Re: The abandoned truck.

If it is associated with the shootings then it was obtained by the shooter either through purchase or sale. If it was legally purchased and not immediately traceable to the shooter through VIN#'s then we are talking enough sophistication to have cut outs in the purchasing that insulate the shooter from the commercial transaction. Such cut outs and sufficient spare cash to buy a throw away truck tend to indicate a support organization with funding and help.

If the truck is stolen then why was that not immediately obvious. Certainly the PD's would have checked for any stolen trucks matching the description of the white box truck.

In either case the sophisticated escape planning up front from the shootings tend to make the madman theory less likely

Unfortunately we still have nothing definitive.

Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown
93 posted on 10/15/2002 5:48:26 AM PDT by harpseal
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To: lentulusgracchus
Either this guy is borderline mental, or he really is a terrorist. Comment?

Whatever the shooter is, he's not mentally ill -- notwithstanding the media's constant efforts to profile the sniper as a crazy white militia man.

By its nature "mind" can't be ill; only the body can be ill. And no bodily illness causes one to become a professional sniper murderer.

The problem is spiritual, not mental. It's called sin. The murderer is evil. Not sick. He will be dealth with by an armed citizen or a policeman, not by a psychologist.

94 posted on 10/15/2002 5:50:54 AM PDT by Stop Legal Plunder
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To: ET(end tyranny)
that area is very tight. lots of pillars in that garage, there is no clearance to be had in there.
95 posted on 10/15/2002 5:52:21 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: AGreatPer
no, there is a mosque on Route 7, which backs on the same strip where the shooting occurred. Less than a mile away.
96 posted on 10/15/2002 5:53:09 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: vollmond
This isn't aimed at you exclusively but I can't take it anymore.

Get a freaking grip

How many people died on the beltway yesterday? So the odds of dying via sniper are slightly higher than the odds you face everyday when you get in your car. Do you cower at home for fear of dying in a car wreck? I can't believe the level of fear I am seeing from the area.

We have to grow a collective spine or we won't deserve freedom.

What the hell has happened to the people in this country?

97 posted on 10/15/2002 5:56:12 AM PDT by wewillnotfail
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To: lentulusgracchus
There is also the fact that there are tons of asian, black and eastern european muslim fanatics.
98 posted on 10/15/2002 5:56:16 AM PDT by sharktrager
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To: Chemist_Geek
If the shooter(s) are smart, then they wouldn't dare mess with the Corps. Unarmed or not, dealing with hundreds of very pissed-off Marines is not generally a survivable experience.

All the more reason for shooter(s) to attempt to show who's really the boss !!!

99 posted on 10/15/2002 5:58:24 AM PDT by GeekDejure
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To: harpseal
Please explain why Rt 7 West or Rt 50 west would not be viable options.

It's the witness reports. Witnesses ID'd the truck and - perhaps - the shooter.

If they shot from the opposite side of Rt. 50, it is simply too dark, and too far, for witnesses in the HD parking lot to have seen anything in that detail.

My presumption is based solely on that fact that there are witness reports, which means that the shooter must have been parked briefly on the access road, which is 10 feet from the HD parking lot, and directly adjacent to it.

If that's the case, they were on a one-way street, which intersects (dead ends) at Patrick Henry Drive, and that's a right-turn-only intersection. Trying to get directly onto Rt. 50 (westbound OR eastbound) from that intersection would be more than a traffic infraction, it would actually be dangerous and bizarre (this is a very busy intersection at day and night).

Yes, I suppose they could have made the right, made a U-turn, sat calmly at the (very very long) traffic light, and headed west on Rt. 50 when they got the green light, but that doesn't seem sensible. These shooters seem to be very adaptable, and they certainly must have taken a lesson from the Friday roadblocks on all the interstates. So why would they head toward 495, an obvious spot for a roadblock, and they still have 10-15 minutes to get there, again after waiting at a long traffic light within eyeball distance of the HD parking lot (maybe 100 yards?). The whole scenario doesn't wash.

Rt. 7 west pretty quickly leads into Falls Church City (after maybe 1/4 mile or so from HD). The speed limit - strictly enforced - is 25 MPH for about 3 to 4 miles. Stoplight after stoplight, even at 9:30PM. Not a good choice for an escape route.

You didn't ask about Rt. 50 east. That also doesn't wash. It's a big, open road, not highly trafficked once past Seven Corners, and doesn't lead anywhere except into DC. Not the kind of road where one can blend in at 9:30PM, which is what these shooters seem to do.

Rt. 7 eastbound has enough 9:30PM traffic to make that possible.

100 posted on 10/15/2002 5:58:30 AM PDT by angkor
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