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Posted on 10/14/2002 8:31:38 PM PDT by Savvymusician
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To: codder too
Is it possible the killer could be shooting from the back of the van,using a small hole to shoot out of? I am still amazed no one has spotted this person/persons in the act. ACB is having a show on the hunt for the killer tonight,it will be interesting to see if they talk about this latest development.
21
posted on
10/14/2002 8:55:35 PM PDT
by
Rocksalt
To: Slyfox
Chevy doesn't make a cream-colored astro van as I can gather.Speculation is that the cream color is actually white but the garage lights may have made it appear cream.
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posted on
10/14/2002 8:55:49 PM PDT
by
CheezyD
To: FL_engineer
St. Michael the Archangel
(Hebrew "Who is like God?").
St. Michael is one of the principal angels; his name was the war-cry of the good angels in the
battle fought in heaven against the enemy and his followers. Four times his name is recorded in
Scripture:
(1) Daniel 10:13 sqq., Gabriel says to Daniel, when he asks God to permit the Jews to return to
Jerusalem: "The Angel [D.V. prince] of the kingdom of the Persians resisted me . . . and, behold
Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me . . . and none is my helper in all these things,
but Michael your prince";
(2) Daniel 12, the Angel speaking of the end of the world and the Antichrist says: "At that time
shall Michael rise up, the great prince, who standeth for the children of thy people."
(3) In the Catholic Epistle of St. Jude: "When Michael the Archangel, disputing with the devil,
contended about the body of Moses", etc. St. Jude alludes to an ancient Jewish tradition of a
dispute between Michael and Satan over the body of Moses, an account of which is also found
in the apocryphal book on the assumption of Moses (Origen, "De principiis", III, 2, 2). St. Michael
concealed the tomb of Moses; Satan, however, by disclosing it, tried to seduce the Jewish
people to the sin of hero-worship. St. Michael also guards the body of Eve, according to the
"Revelation of Moses" ("Apocryphal Gospels", etc., ed. A. Walker, Edinburgh, p. 647).
(4) Apocalypse 12:7, "And there was a great battle in heaven, Michael and his angels fought
with the dragon." St. John speaks of the great conflict at the end of time, which reflects also the
battle in heaven at the beginning of time. According to the Fathers there is often question of St.
Michael in Scripture where his name is not mentioned. They say he was the cherub who stood
at the gate of paradise, "to keep the way of the tree of life" (Gen., iii, 24), the angel through
whom God published the Decalogue to his chosen people, the angel who stood in the way
against Balaam (Numbers 22:22 sqq.), the angel who routed the army of Sennacherib (IV Kings
19:35).
Following these Scriptural passages, Christian tradition gives to St. Michael four offices:
To fight against Satan.
To rescue the souls of the faithful from the power of the enemy, especially at the hour
of death.
To be the champion of God's people, the Jews in the Old Law, the Christians in the New
Testament; therefore he was the patron of the Church, and of the orders of knights
during the Middle Ages.
To call away from earth and bring men's souls to judgment ("signifer S. Michael
repraesentet eas in lucam sanctam", Offert. Miss Defunct. "Constituit eum principem
super animas suscipiendas", Antiph. off. Cf. "Hermas", Pastor, I, 3, Simil. VIII, 3).
Regarding his rank in the celestial hierarchy opinions vary; St. Basil (Hom. de angelis) and other
Greek Fathers, also Salmeron, Bellarmine, etc., place St. Michael over all the angels; they say he
is called "archangel" because he is the prince of the other angels; others (cf. P. Bonaventura,
op. cit.) believe that he is the prince of the seraphim, the first of the nine angelic orders. But,
according to St. Thomas (Summa, I:113:3) he is the prince of the last and lowest choir, the
angels. The Roman Liturgy seems to follow the Greek Fathers; it calls him "Princeps militiae
coelestis quem honorificant angelorum cives". The hymn of the Mozarabic Breviary places St.
Michael even above the Twenty-four Elders. The Greek Liturgy styles him Archistrategos,
"highest general" (cf. Menaea, 8 Nov. and 6 Sept.).
VENERATION
It would have been natural to St. Michael, the champion of the Jewish people, to be the champion
also of Christians, giving victory in war to his clients. The early Christians, however, regarded
some of the martyrs as their military patrons: St. George, St. Theodore, St. Demetrius, St.
Sergius, St. Procopius, St. Mercurius, etc.; but to St. Michael they gave the care of their sick. At
the place where he was first venerated, in Phrygia, his prestige as angelic healer obscured his
interposition in military affairs. It was from early times the centre of the true cult of the holy
angels, particularly of St. Michael. Tradition relates that St. Michael in the earliest ages caused a
medicinal spring to spout at Chairotopa near Colossae, where all the sick who bathed there,
invoking the Blessed Trinity and St. Michael, were cured.
Still more famous are the springs which St. Michael is said to have drawn from the rock at
Colossae (Chonae, the present Khonas, on the Lycus). The pagans directed a stream against
the sanctuary of St. Michael to destroy it, but the archangel split the rock by lightning to give a
new bed to the stream, and sanctified forever the waters which came from the gorge. The
Greeks claim that this apparition took place about the middle of the first century and celebrate a
feast in commemoration of it on 6 September (Analecta Bolland., VIII, 285-328). Also at Pythia in
Bithynia and elsewhere in Asia the hot springs were dedicated to St. Michael.
At Constantinople likewise, St. Michael was the great heavenly physician. His principal
sanctuary, the Michaelion, was at Sosthenion, some fifty miles south of Constantinople; there the
archangel is said to have appeared to the Emperor Constantine. The sick slept in this church at
night to wait for a manifestation of St. Michael; his feast was kept there 9 June. Another famous
church was within the walls of the city, at the thermal baths of the Emperor Arcadius; there the
synaxis of the archangel was celebrated 8 November. This feast spread over the entire Greek
Church, and the Syrian, Armenian, and Coptic Churches adopted it also; it is now the principal
feast of St. Michael in the Orient. It may have originated in Phrygia, but its station at
Constantinople was the Thermae of Arcadius (Martinow, "Annus Graeco-slavicus", 8 Nov.).
Other feasts of St. Michael at Constantinople were: 27 October, in the "Promotu" church; 18
June, in the Church of St. Julian at the Forum; and 10 December, at Athaea.
The Christians of Egypt placed their life-giving river, the Nile under the protection of St. Michael;
they adopted the Greek feast and kept it 12 November; on the twelfth of every month they
celebrate a special commemoration of the archangel, but 12 June, when the river commences to
rise, they keep as a holiday of obligation the feast of St. Michael "for the rising of the Nile",
euche eis ten symmetron anabasin ton potamion hydaton.
At Rome the Leonine Sacramentary (sixth century) has the "Natale Basilicae Angeli via Salaria",
30 September; of the five Masses for the feast three mention St. Michael. The Gelasian
Sacramentary (seventh century) gives the feast "S. Michaelis Archangeli", and the Gregorian
Sacramentary (eighth century), "Dedicatio Basilionis S. Angeli Michaelis", 29 Sept. A manuscript
also here adds "via Salaria" (Ebner, "Miss. Rom. Iter Italicum", 127). This church of the Via Salaria
was six miles to the north of the city; in the ninth century it was called Basilica Archangeli in
Septimo (Armellini, "Chiese di Roma", p. 85). It disappeared a thousand years ago. At Rome also
the part of heavenly physician was given to St. Michael. According to an (apocryphal?) legend
of the tenth century he appeared over the Moles Hadriani (Castel di S. Angelo), in 950, during the
procession which St. Gregory held against the pestilence, putting an end to the plague. Boniface
IV (608-15) built on the Moles Hadriani in honour of him, a church, which was styled St.
Michaelis inter nubes (in summitate circi).
Well known is the apparition of St. Michael (a. 494 or 530-40), as related in the Roman Breviary,
8 May, at his renowned sanctuary on Monte Gargano, where his original glory as patron in war
was restored to him. To his intercession the Lombards of Sipontum (Manfredonia) attributed their
victory over the Greek Neapolitans, 8 May, 663. In commemoration of this victory the church of
Sipontum instituted a special feast in honour of the archangel, on 8 May, which has spread over
the entire Latin Church and is now called (since the time of Pius V) "Apparitio S. Michaelis",
although it originally did not commemorate the apparition, but the victory.
In Normandy St. Michael is the patron of mariners in his famous sanctuary at Mont-Saint-Michel in
the diocese of Coutances. He is said to have appeared there, in 708, to St. Aubert, Bishop of
Avranches. In Normandy his feast "S. Michaelis in periculo maris" or "in Monte Tumba" was
universally celebrated on 18 Oct., the anniversary of the dedication of the first church, 16 Oct.,
710; the feast is now confined to the Diocese of Coutances. In Germany, after its evangelization,
St. Michael replaced for the Christians the pagan god Wotan, to whom many mountains were
sacred, hence the numerous mountain chapels of St. Michael all over Germany.
The hymns of the Roman Office are said to have been composed by St. Rabanus Maurus of
Fulda (d. 856). In art St. Michael is represented as an angelic warrior, fully armed with helmet,
sword, and shield (often the shield bears the Latin inscription: Quis ut Deus), standing over the
dragon, whom he sometimes pierces with a lance. He also holds a pair of scales in which he
weighs the souls of the departed (cf. Rock, "The Church of Our Fathers", III, 160), or the book of
life, to show that he takes part in the judgment. His feast (29 September) in the Middle Ages was
celebrated as a holy day of obligation, but along with several other feasts it was gradually
abolished since the eighteenth century (see FEASTS). Michaelmas Day, in England and other
countries, is one of the regular quarter-days for settling rents and accounts; but it is no longer
remarkable for the hospitality with which it was formerly celebrated. Stubble-geese being
esteemed in perfection about this time, most families had one dressed on Michaelmas Day. In
some parishes (Isle of Skye) they had a procession on this day and baked a cake, called St.
Michael's bannock.
To: RobRoy
Indeed, one takes more of a risk day to day just driving, BUT, at this point, I think the possibility of being shot at a gas station, shopping center etc. is closing in statistically. Perhaps Maryland and Virginia (there is no legal hunting in DC) will enlist hunters/others to assist in creating parameters around these and other areas, deputize them and hope they get him/her/them in their sights and take him/her/them out on the spot. I am against the death penalty, but instant justice sounds good to me...one more thing: with all the task force tied up on this one, isn't there the possibility of another strike elsewhere right now?
To: RobRoy
Indeed, one takes more of a risk day to day just driving, BUT, at this point, I think the possibility of being shot at a gas station, shopping center etc. is closing in statistically. Perhaps Maryland and Virginia (there is no legal hunting in DC) will enlist hunters/others to assist in creating parameters around these and other areas, deputize them and hope they get him/her/them in their sights and take him/her/them out on the spot. I am against the death penalty, but instant justice sounds good to me...one more thing: with all the task force tied up on this one, isn't there the possibility of another strike elsewhere right now?
To: Nick Thimmesch
I live in Alexandria. My mom was shopping at that Home Depot yesterday. Since the killings started happening, the horror is really starting to sink in now.
To: Savvymusician
Not again..God rest the lady's soul and comfort her family, especially her husband.
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posted on
10/14/2002 8:59:25 PM PDT
by
mafree
To: FL_engineer
Here's some info on the Crusades from this web site
(http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/04543c.htm)
The Crusades were expeditions undertaken, in fulfilment of a solemn vow, to deliver the Holy Places from Mohammedan tyranny.
The origin of the word may be traced to the cross made of cloth and worn as a badge on the outer garment of those who took part in these enterprises. Medieval writers use the terms crux (pro cruce transmarina, Charter of 1284, cited by Du Cange s.v. crux), croisement (Joinville), croiserie (Monstrelet), etc. Since the Middle Ages the meaning of the word crusade has been extended to include all wars undertaken in pursuance of a vow, and directed against infidels, i.e. against Mohammedans, pagans, heretics, or those under the ban of excommunication. The wars waged by the Spaniards against the Moors constituted a continual crusade from the eleventh to the sixteenth century; in the north of Europe crusades were organized against the Prussians and Lithuanians; the extermination of the Albigensian heresy was due to a crusade, and, in the thirteenth century the popes preached crusades against John Lackland and Frederick II. But modern literature has abused the word by applying it to all wars of a religious character, as, for instance, the expedition of Heraclius against the Persians in the seventh century and the conquest of Saxony by Charlemagne. The idea of the crusade corresponds to a political conception which was realized in Christendom only from the eleventh to the fifteenth century; this supposes a union of all peoples and sovereigns under the direction of the popes. All crusades were announced by preaching. After pronouncing a solemn vow, each warrior received a cross from the hands of the pope or his legates, and was thenceforth considered a soldier of the Church. Crusaders were also granted indulgences and temporal privileges, such as exemption from civil jurisdiction, inviolability of persons or lands, etc. Of all these wars undertaken in the name of Christendom, the most important were the Eastern Crusades, which are the only ones treated in this article.
If this is a plausible theory, perhaps the terrorists are applying, in reverse (now to us), the Crusades originally directed against them during the middle ages.
We have heard that the death card, the tarot card, was a "crusader" death card, perhaps like this one:
28
posted on
10/14/2002 9:00:45 PM PDT
by
nicmarlo
To: CheezyD
I'm wondering. Should people start wearing bullet-proof vests under their jackets?
29
posted on
10/14/2002 9:02:13 PM PDT
by
Slyfox
To: nicmarlo
but what does all this st. michael stuff have to do with the shootings? i must have missed something...
30
posted on
10/14/2002 9:03:49 PM PDT
by
Nayt2
To: Nayt2
There's been speculation only that because several times now it has occurred nearby a Michael's craft store; I believe I also heard/read that one shooting took place near a St. Michael's church, or a police station (all police's patron saint is Michael)---
31
posted on
10/14/2002 9:06:04 PM PDT
by
nicmarlo
To: codder too
In addition: In another news story about this murder, the porter mentioned that although it took place in front of a Home Depot, there was a MICHAEL'S in the same shopping center.
Someone mentioned in another thread that St Michael was the patron saint of police.
I STILL think it's Islamonazis. But this Michael's thing is either purposeful subterfuge on the sniper's part or there is a connection.
32
posted on
10/14/2002 9:09:26 PM PDT
by
Indie
To: withteeth
That's how I see it too-The murderer could just as easily be driving a fire engine red Yugo. Looking for white vans every time, when it has never been proven that a white van ever was the get away vehicle, is working in favor of the terrorist.
Detail searching every vehicle going through check points, may be a nightmare for those manning the check points, but it is unlikely the real nightmare will end until this method is employed.
To: Slyfox
So if they should wear bullet proof vests, should they also wear helmets?
34
posted on
10/14/2002 9:16:01 PM PDT
by
drjoe
To: Nayt2
Apparently there has been some speculation that the shooter is concentrating on places near Michael's craft stores because St. Michael is the patron saint of law enforcement. There is a Michael's on the other side of the shopping center where the Home Depot is. I think this is a bunch of crap myself.
I believe law enforement has STRONG evidence on this one and will likely nail the bastard soon. Local TV news reporters say there is considerable info going out on the police radio beyond what is being reported on the vehicle, including a description of a possible driver. MASSIVE roadbocks are up all over the DC area, all bridges closed, numerous helicopters in the air. Just heard one report that a witness saw the Astro van parked on an access road in front of the Home Depot and it hauled ass right after the shot was fired. Many people were in the shopping center, near the parking lot, and driving on Route 50 at the time. This was an extremely brazen shooting.
I think the shooter probably lives in the Seven Corners area and works in Maryland. It's very unusual for someone to know both this area of Falls Church and the Kensington/Silver Spring area of Maryland. (I've lived in Alexandria for 20 years but I don't know Kensington or Silver Spring at all.) Both of these areas are fairly difficult to escape from, not all that near major expressways. If it is a Latino or Midde Eastern person, there are tons of them living in Falls Church. This shopping center is just a few blocks from the biggest mosque in the area.
To: Slyfox
Bullet proff vests don't cover your head: that's were the shots are headed, so to speak.
To: Savvymusician
Authorities in Baltimore, meanwhile, seized a white van and found an assault rifle, sniper manual and ammunition similar to the .223 bullets used in attacks that have killed eight people and wounded two others, WBAL-TV reported. MSNBC reported that a tarot card was found in the van and a sign on the dashboard read "Gihad in America." A tarot card was also found at one of the shootings. The van's owner was being questioned by police Monday night. "At this time, the task force believes this is not related to our sniper incidents," said Louise Marthens, a Montgomery County police spokeswoman. So, was this guy being set up? Van + Tarot card in the van + dashboard sign "Gihad in America" + assault rifle + .223 ammo + sniper manuals....and the cops interview the guy and say, nope, not him. Is this the same guy who got shot by his girlfriend in a domestic dispute? So was he being set up or what?
To: RobRoy
go to www.michaels.com...do a store search by city
To: Savvymusician; All
TABLE REV # 6 - 10/14/02 Late evening
THIS ANIMAL NEEDS TO BE STOPPED!!!
If you find errors on this table - Please privately FReep mail me (brigette), so that I do not miss your message. This table was created on 10/12/02 and it has been revised 4 times since 10/12/02 |
Date/Time (time in between shootings) |
Location & Mileage from last location |
Victim Name Shooting #, (Victim #), & (Death #) |
Sex |
Ethnicity |
Age & Victims Home |
Condition |
Circumstances |
10/2/02 5:20 PM Wednesday
Click here for USGS aerial photograph taken in 1988 - Red Marker points to exact address location of 13850 Georgia Ave - Michaels is the second building over to the left of the red marker |
Michaels Craft Store
13850 Georgia Ave
Aspen Hill, MD |
No Injuries
Shooting #1
(Victim #0)
|
N/A |
N/A |
N/A |
N/A |
Store Window Shot through - Bullet just misses a female store clerk |
10/2/02 6:04 PM Wednesday
(44 mins)
Click here for USGS aerial photograph taken in 1988 - Red Marker points to exact address location of 2201 Randolph Rd - Shoppers Food Warehouse is the large build just to the left of the red marker |
Shoppers Food Warehouse
2201 Randolph Rd
Wheaton, MD
(2.60 miles from 13850 Georgia Ave) |
James D. Martin
Shooting #2
(Victim #1)
(1st to die) |
Male |
Caucasian |
55
Silver Spring, Md |
Dead |
Shot while standing in parking lot of Shoppers Food Warehouse |
10/3/02 7:41 AM Thursday
(13 hrs & 37 mins)
Click here for USGS aerial photograph taken in 1988 - Red Marker points to exact address location of 11407 Rockville Pike |
Fitzgerald Auto Mall
11407 Rockville Pike
Kensington, MD
(4.89 miles from 2201 Randolph Rd) |
James L. "Sonny" Buchanan
Shooting #3
(Victim #2)
(2nd to die) |
Male |
Caucasian |
39
Arlington, Va |
Dead |
Shot while mowing lawn at Auto Mall |
10/3/02 8:12 AM Thursday
(31 mins)
Click here for USGS aerial photograph taken in 1988 - Red Marker points to exact address location of 4100 Aspen Hill Rd |
Mobil Gas Station
4100 Aspen Hill Rd
Rockville, MD
(4.62 miles from 11407 Rockville Pike) |
Prem Kumar A Walekar
Shooting #4
(Victim #3)
(3rd to die) |
Male |
Indian (Born in India) |
54
Olney, Md. |
Dead |
Shot while pumping gas into his Taxi Cab |
10/3/02 8.37 AM Thursday
(25 mins)
Click here for USGS aerial photograph taken in 1988 - Red Marker points to exact address location of 3802 International Dr - PO is located in the strip mall just below the red marker |
USPS Post Office
3802 International Dr
Silver Spring, MD
(1.85 miles from 4100 Aspen Hill Rd) |
Sarah Ramos
Shooting #5
(Victim #4)
(4th to die) |
Female |
Hispanic (Immigrant from El Salvador) |
34
Silver Spring, Md |
Dead |
Shot in head while sitting on the park bench in front of the PO |
10/3/02 9:58 AM Thursday
(1 hr & 28 mins)
Click here for USGS aerial photograph taken in 1988 - Red Marker points to exact address location of 10515 Connecticut Ave |
Shell Gas Station
10515 Connecticut Ave
Kensington, MD
(5.0 miles from 3802 International Dr) |
Lori Ann Lewis-Rivera
Shooting #6
(Victim #5)
(5th to die) |
Female |
Caucasian |
25
Silver Spring, Md |
Dead |
Shot while vacuuming her mini van |
10/3/02 9:20 PM Thursday
(11 hrs & 22 mins)
Click here for USGS aerial photograph taken in 1988 - Red Marker points to exact address location of 1100 block of Kalmia Rd |
Street Corner of Georgia Ave & 1100 Block of Kalmia Rd. NW,
Washington DC
(4.79 miles from 10515 Connecticut Ave) |
Pascal Charlot
Shooting #7
(Victim #6)
(6th to die) |
Male |
African American |
72
Washington, D.C |
Dead |
Shot below the neck while crossing the street |
10/4/02 2:30 PM Friday
(17 hrs & 10 mins)
Click here for USGS aerial photograph taken in 1989 - Red Marker points to exact address location of 299 Spotsylvania Mall - Michaels is the large building to the right of the red marker |
Parking Lot of Michaels Craft Store in Spotsylvania County
299 Spotsylvania Mall
Fredericksburg, VA
(68.32 miles from 1100 Block of Kalmia Rd. NW) |
Identity Withheld
Shooting #8
(Victim #7)
(1st Wounded, 1st to Survive) |
Female |
Caucasian |
43
Withheld |
Wounded and now released from hospital |
Shot in the back while loading packages in her car |
10/7/02 8:08 AM Monday
(65 hrs & 38 mins)
Click here for USGS aerial photograph taken in 1993 - Red Marker points to exact address location of 4901 Collington Rd |
Benjamin Tasker Middle School
4901 Collington Rd
Bowie MD
(70.58 miles from 299 Spotsylvania Mall) |
Identity Withheld
Shooting #9
(Victim #8)
(2nd Wounded, 2nd to Survive) |
Male |
African American |
13
Withheld |
Wounded and in critical but stable condition |
Shot when he was dropped off at school by his Aunt.
Death Tarot card left behind by sniper with the words handwritten on the card. Dear Policeman, "I am God" and 1 bullet shell was found also near the tarot card |
10/9/02 8:18 PM Wednesday
(60 hrs & 10 mins)
Click here for USGS aerial photograph taken in 1989 - Red Marker points to exact address location of 7203 Sudley Rd |
Sunoco Gas Station
7203 Sudley Rd (Rt 234) and Balls Ford Road, Prince William County,
Manassas, VA
(52.51 miles from 4901 Collington Rd) |
Dean H Meyers
Shooting #10
(Victim #9)
(7th to die) |
Male |
Caucasian |
53
Gaithersburg, Md |
Dead |
Shot in head while pumping gas into his car. |
10/11/02 9:30 AM Friday
(37 hrs 12 mins)
Click here for USGS aerial photograph taken in 1994 - Red Marker points to exact address location of 5326 Jefferson Davis Hwy |
Exxon Gas Station
5326 Jefferson Davis Hwy
Massaponax, VA
(54.34 miles from 7203 Sudley Rd)
|
Kenneth Bridges
Shooting #11
(Victim #10)
(8th to die) |
Male |
African American |
53
Philadelphia, PA |
Dead |
Shot in Upper Left Back while pumping gas into his rental car. |
10/14/02 9:15 PM Monday
(83 hrs 15 mins)
Click here for USGS aerial photograph taken in 1988 - Red Marker points to address location of 6210 Seven Corners Ctr - it is to the left of the red marker and is the 3 section long building |
Parking Lot of Home Depot at Seven Corners Shopping Center
6210 Seven Corners Ctr
Falls Church, VA 22044
Fairfax County |
Identity Not Released Yet
Shooting #12
(Victim #11)
(9th to die) |
Female |
Caucasian |
Unknown
Unknown |
Dead |
Shot while loading goods purchased from Home Depot into car. Her husband may have been with her.
A 1970's Cream Chevy Astro Van was seen in the area. It has a right tail light out
Also another Michaels Craft Store is in the strip mall. Seven Corners stands for 7 highways connecting at this location. |
Aerial Maps will open in a new window and they are interactive, you can zoom in or out on them.
Actual addresses were looked up using Yahoo's Yellow Pages and checking the maps
Point to point mileage was taken from Mapquest by entering in each address from the previous shooting address
The rest of the information was taken from several media sources like FOX, CNN, etc...
Rev1 on 10/12/02 - Fixed hours that had passed between the first killing and the second
Rev2 on 10/13/02
Added Days of the Week to Table (suggested by "Timpad")
Added on Kenneth Bridges "while pumping gas into his rental car."
Added Tarot Card/Bullet Shell Info.
Corrected Fitzgerald Auto Mall Address (address is wrong in published media reports, address is now corrected on this table)
Put in exact address for Mobil Gas Station in Aspen Hill
Put in exact address for Shell Gas Station at Connecticut & Knowles
Added point to point mileage
Rev3 on 10/13/02
Removed PM time for 10/11/02 Shooting and added correct time
Rev4 on 10/14/02
Added aerial picture links - Corrected a couple of actual shooting addresses
Rev5 on 10/14/02
Fixed mileage and address for shooting #5 & #6 (Media is giving Leisure Worlds Address... I located the actual PO Address and but in the correct address.
Rev6 on 10/14/02
Added lastest shooting victim information
To: Nick Thimmesch
I am against the death penalty, but instant justice sounds good to me ...uh ... you don't notice some little problem with logical consistency in these words?
i have often felt that many who purport to be, e.g., against the death penalty ... well ... under the right circumstances ... .
in other words, they're not really against the death penalty at all.
40
posted on
10/14/2002 9:26:58 PM PDT
by
johnboy
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