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To: DaGman
Fact is, evolution has tons of evidence that validate it.

The evidence for evolution is really not worth very much and the objections to evolution are indeed quite strong. I will take a living organism's evidence of design over a few bones everytime. Let's look at the following for example:


How can evolution explain euglena - an organism which is both a plant and an animal and has an eye? Where did it descend from?

How can evolution explain the descent of the Hymenopimesis Wasp - an insect that reproduces itself by almost killing a spider, forcing the spider to build a special web for the eggs and then killing the spider?

How can evolution explain the butterfly - an organism which is essentially born twice?

How can evolution explain the platypus - a mammal which lays eggs, defends itself with a poison spur, has a duck-like bill, an elector censor in the bill, webbed feet, a cloaca, and the ability to vocalize many different sounds?

How can evolution explain the bat's sonar which is better than what our navy has?

How can evolution explain the fugu fish whose genes are so close to man that examining its genome showed us 1,000 genes in humans which the genome project had been unable to find?

The bones could have never told us the unique characteristics of these species. Therefore bones, a terribly reductionist method of comparing species, is unable to show us if species are really descendants of each other. They do not even show us the mode of reproduction of a species in most cases - a terribly important fact needed to prove descent. So yes, the facts against evolution are quite strong and the evidence for it is quite weak, in fact, it does not prove anything.

394 posted on 10/19/2002 7:55:40 PM PDT by gore3000
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To: gore3000
Its explained very simply by the survival of the fittest. Each has developed its own methods of survival and reproduction.

And, it sounds like the Fogu fish explains man. I wasn't aware of the genetic similarities you describe but that would appear to be a fairly strong prima facie case that man descended from water dwelling creatures.

403 posted on 10/19/2002 11:56:07 PM PDT by DaGman
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To: gore3000
Just curious how you would respond to the information in this thread? I'm afraid any and all of your arguments are referenced in this article FR thread.

This article summarizes exactly why I don't feel it necessary to teach someone basic science.

434 posted on 10/22/2002 5:48:29 PM PDT by DaGman
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To: gore3000
How can evolution explain euglena - an organism which is both a plant and an animal and has an eye?

This must be a different Euglena from the one I looked at through a microscope as a student.

How can evolution explain the bat's sonar which is better than what our navy has?

It can detect submarines at 100 miles? Now why would a bat want to do that?

How can evolution explain the butterfly - an organism which is essentially born twice?

By my count, it ain't even born once.

How can evolution explain the fugu fish whose genes are so close to man that examining its genome showed us 1,000 genes in humans which the genome project had been unable to find?

I'm just dying to see what piece of legitimate piece of scientific work was twisted by a combination of creationist ignorance and tendentiousness to generate this claim.

443 posted on 10/22/2002 8:50:22 PM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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