Posted on 10/14/2002 1:52:02 PM PDT by Whitebread
been visiting the IWPR site again ? Please try a dose of fact base reality for once rather than HumWarrior agit-prop.......
reality is that SPS never got a majority of the votes in Serbia, the typical SPS percentage was on order of 40%........in election after election a majority of "the serbs" did NOT support the SPS
The SPS always governed in a coalition. At virtually any time during the 1990's, the SPS (and your bogeyman Milosevic) could have been kicked out of power simply by having the anti-SPS parties form a majority coalition.
The anti-SPS parties were too busy engaging in childish squabbles to ever get serious about governing.
The anti-SPS parties only got toegther after Albright read them the riot act in the Summer of 2000 and gave them 'suitcases of cash' estimated at $100mm. Albright's offer of serious loot focused their minds wonderfully.....
and now that Albright isn't sending suitcases of cash to the anti-SPS leaders they are back to their childish bickering...
.........which means that a SPS/SRS/Unity coalition is very likely to build a majority coalition in the next parliment............and the bickering DOS amatuers will return to their teaching jobs.
has there ever been a time in which you disagreed with the NPR/PBS POV ?
I thought most of the early Jewish settlements came from those poor souls kicked out of Spain, the Sephardim.
Had it not been for Serbs, Broz would have never made it more than a schlosser
The communist party had no official chapter in Serbia. Tito never even thought the Serbs would be anything other than an obstacle to a communist revolution.
Had it not been for the Nazis invading Yugoslavia, because the Serbs staged mass demostrations against a non-aggression pact between Yugoslavia and Germany, followed by a coup and annullment of the pact, Tito would have indeed remained in Zagreb, sharing office space next to Ustasha's HQ.
But once Germany attacked, the "stupid" Serbs fought back. Serbs were fed communist propaganda about being the chauvinist opressors, about enslaving other nations, everything to make one feel just awful being a Serb. The only "good" Serbs were those who hated other Serbs with more passion than non-Serbs could ever match.
At Bujan, Kosovo was not promised to Albania by the "Serbs," but by Serb communists. Serb communists have done everything to hurt their nation, and they had almost half a century to serve two extreme serbophobes: Tito and Kardelj. Slobo was the first real "aberration," among Serb communists in that he was more a Serb than a communist.
The entire history of Yugoslavia, since the Serbs helped Tito establish a more "equitable" and "just" union not dominated by Serbs, the country has been slowly moving towards diminishing everything Serbian. The Serbian people had no input. The Serbs did not produce the 1974 constitution either. Serb communists were passive lackeys, nothing more. So, to say it was all the "Serbs'" fault it's like blaming the Jews for everything.
I am sorry that you see it that way Tamodaleko. It is somewhat disappointing, but that's your opinion.
I think Djindjich will dance the way he is told to. So if that means going along with the reform of the 50% rule, he will agree.
Tamodaleko, if you don't want me to speak my mind I will never, ever, respond to your posts. Is that what you want? I am not telling you to stop. You have your opinion, and I find it disappointing that you can blame one factor for everything, that's your right. Mine is not to change your mind, but to appeal to your reason.
If I disagree with you, with Hoplite, with Tropoljac, whoever, it's not personal and it's an honest disagreement, in good faith. If you want a Yes-Forum, I guess this is not it.
Why?
Whoever is in charge in Belgrade is going to be seen as dancing, Kosta - that's the way the nationalists (er, more nationalist than whoever is in charge) will paint it. Kostunica is merely doing to Djindjic what Seselj is going to do to Kostunica as soon as he gathers the reigns of power and has to start dealing with Western pressure.
What I am saying is that Seselj will continue to act the part of the hyena and bite at the heels of whoever is in charge, using the nationalist platform.
As far as I could see, that bridge had absolutely no military strategic value whatsoever. In fact, by bombing that bridge and declaring it a military target, NATO was either claiming that Croatia would permit FRY forces to transit Croatia (from where to where, hello?) to slaughter "poor KLA" or they were concerned FRY forces would invade Croatia over that bridge at Ilok (another hello? hello? Earth to Jamie!). Both are totally insane propositions, of course. Just wondered what your thoughts were.
I know I may be a bit sentimental about this bridge, but I simply cannot see any military strategic importance, unless on is a madman. I'm curious what the Croat perspective is. Thanks in advance for your reply.
[Note to others not familiar with the geography: this bridge spanned the Danube between Serbia and Croatia. In fact, it was the was the last remaining bridge over the Danube between the two countries and a vital trade link.]
I understand what you are saying. I also think that once in power every politician moderates to some extent, or at least takes any stance that will keep him in power.
The aim is to stay in power, whatever it takes. For that reason, I think even Sheshel would moderate his "rabid nationalism" to assure he stays in power.
However, the more extreme the situation is the more extreme the politicians will be. I think Sheshel won the 1997 annulled elections simply because the electorate was willing to change the regime, so even Sheshel (more extreme than Miloshevich) became the choice. One more reason to keep Koshtunitsa around.
The late nineteenth century. And he wasn't just nominated, he went all the way to the top. Well, technically Queen Victoria outranked Disraeli, but the PM actually runs things.
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