[anniegetyourgun]

Yes, but a devout Muslim would have nothing to do with Tarot. I just can't buy this scenario, even though I would prefer to think that we don't have a case of an American killing his fellow Americans.

[Polybius]

Yes, but a devout Muslim would have nothing to do with Tarot.

But remember that devout Muslims would have nothing to do with strip joints and there the 9/11 terrorists were: clean shaven and in a strip joint.

As I recall, a captured al Qaeda training manual advised that terrorists had a dispensation from some Muslim laws so that they may blend in better with the local population, avoid capture and thereby have a better chance to fulfill their mission.

The Tarot card may be a piece of disinformation deliberately left behind to throw the investigatoer off the trail.

[stlnative]

Yes, but a devout Muslim would have nothing to do with Tarot. I just can't buy this scenario, even though I would prefer to think that we don't have a case of an American killing his fellow Americans.

The oldest playing cards date back to tenth century China, but the four suits of tarot and modern playing cards probably originated with a fourteenth century Muslim deck.[Decker] According to de Givry, in the modern 52-card deck of ordinary playing cards, sticks or wands = clubs (and announce news); swords = spades (and presage unhappiness and death); cups = hearts (and presage happiness); coins = diamonds (and presage money). According to Decker, the Muslim sticks represented polo sticks. As Europeans were not yet familiar with polo, they changed the suit of sticks to that of wands, cudgels or batons.

http://skepdic.com/tarot.html

[SwinneySwitch]

Devout Muslims would have nothing to do with strip clubs and alcohol like the 9/11 hijackers did!

[usconservative]

Yes, but a devout Muslim would have nothing to do with Tarot.

A devout Muslim who's read the Hadith's and Sura knows that it is acceptable under the Islamic "faith" to deceive ones enemies.

Using a tarot card fits perfectly into the scenario, assuming deception is in fact, being used.

[dalebert]

I thought Tarot came from the middle east?

[xzins]

Look again at the tarot.

It could be the "pale horse with rider" the symbol of death in the book of revelation.

Also, I received the following email recently from a friend:

Excerpt from: http://skepdic.com/tarot.html

Gypsies didn't begin using tarot cards until the twentieth century. Today, there are many different tarot decks used in cartomancy. The meanings of the figures and numbers on tarot cards vary greatly among tarot readers and advocates, many of whom find connections between tarot and the cabala, astrology, the I Ching, ancient Egypt, and various other occult and mystical notions.

The oldest playing cards date back to tenth century China, but the four suits of tarot and modern playing cards probably originated with a fourteenth century Muslim deck .[Decker]

According to de Givry, in the modern 52-card deck of ordinary playing cards, sticks or wands = clubs (and announce news); swords = spades (and presage unhappiness and death); cups = hearts (and presage happiness); coins = diamonds (and presage money). According to Decker, the Muslim sticks represented polo sticks. As Europeans were not yet familiar with polo, they changed the suit of sticks to that of wands, cudgels or batons.

[cake_crumb]

"Yes, but a devout Muslim would have nothing to do with Tarot"

As far as I know, Muslims don't have a particular problem with Tarot. I could be wrong, but since they developed their own style Tarot deck in the 12th century (IIRC) they must not mind it. They're also heavily into numerology and communication with spirits - djinn.

[snippy_about_it]

Oh please. The devout muslim also wouldn't go to strip bars and indulge in liquor, but they did the night before their terror flight.

[spokeshave]

Yes, but a devout Muslim would have nothing to do with Tarot. I just can't buy this scenario, even though I would prefer to think that we don't have a case of an American killing his fellow Americans.

We've re-visited this on numerous occasions.

The islamics lie to non believers to further their cause.

It is well documented that Atta and his group went to girlie bars and clubs prior to 9-11

Using the Tarot cards or anyhing else to further their cause is reccomended....see the AQ guide book.

[beckett]

According to expert Eden Gray:

The Gypsies say that...the Tarot was originally brought to their people from Chaldea [the plain between the Tigris and Euphrates] and Egypt into Israel and thence into Greece.

E. Gray, Complete Guide to the Tarot, p 6

[Almondjoy]

But this guy isn't a murderer per se. It's not like watching one of those serial-killer movies where they have this need to get caught.. this need to contact authorties and make them understand.. he's in enemy terrority and you do whatever it takes to keep them off the trial.

[Ronin]

Don't be so sure. He may have picked up the tarot just to get the gruesome looking death card.

[xm177e2]

a devout Muslim would have nothing to do with Tarot

That could always be misdirection. (I still think the most likely scenario is the stereotypical white guy)

[marajade]

And a devout Muslim isn't supposed to have anything to do with prostitutes either but I remember a story about a girl giving one of them a lap dance in a bar...