[LaGrone]

My question to your assertion would be if American consumers pay less for products made in China with slave labor, doesn't that leave more money in our pockets to buy more goods? I'm sorry for their workers, but it looks to me like our economy is in better shape for it.

Some workers will be displaced during this process, but the marketplace is the place where buyer and seller come together at some agreed price.

[ChiMark]

Free trade works well with China. The theory being that free markets require aq free populace. But China is not the west. I don't believe by encouraging free markets in China will necessarily change the political position of their leaders. The Chinese are capable of producing without the need for personal autonomy. Very different from the European communist societies.

[RLK]

My question to your assertion would be if American consumers pay less for products made in China with slave labor, doesn't that leave more money in our pockets to buy more goods?

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When people are put out of work they don't have more money for anything. When the people who are not out of a job yet use the "more money" to buy foreign goods, it further depletes the American economy.

[nanny]

[Some workers will be displaced during this process, but the marketplace is the place where buyer and seller come together at some agreed price.]

'Some' workers are displaced by the chinese, 'some' by the indonesians, 'some' by the Mexicans, 'some' by the Sri Lankans (sp), 'some' by the Brazilians, 'some' by the - well just read the labels on your products. By the time we have split the 'some' among all the countries of the world, there aren't many 'somes' left with jobs.

Now if there are no jobs, and you have no money, it doesn't matter how cheap the product is.

This is to say nothing of the absolute absurdity of a country having no manufacturing. I do not think we could even manufacture the uniforms if we had a large scale war to say nothing of the hardware needed. This is suicide.

[maui_hawaii]

My question to your assertion would be if American consumers pay less for products made in China with slave labor, doesn't that leave more money in our pockets to buy more goods? I'm sorry for their workers, but it looks to me like our economy is in better shape for it.

Your assumption in many cases is flat out incorrect. In many cases the product price is NOT driven down by importing from China. Its simply not.

If I can make a pair of shoes for $10 in Mexico, and I can make them for $8 in China, but I can sell either pair for $75, why chose Mexico?

I get an extra $2 bucks for chosing China, but the end price is hardly affected. The consumer doesn't benefit, or hardly care at all, but the executive pay of those on top of the totem pole will go through the roof.

Deflationary costs in pricing are not rooted in China. They are rooted in competition for marketshare, overall supply, and overall economic conditions.

[maui_hawaii]

More companies creating the same type of product equals deflationary pressure to end consumers. Everything else is rarely passed on.

Many of the products you see are falsely priced.

There are some economic values to using China, but you certainly did not make any arguments for any of them.

The only thing going up in relation to Chinese imports is the wages of the left over company execs, that is after they have laid everyone else off.

[cp124]

Some workers? I guess your not aware that our manufacturing base is collapsing. The manufacturing base that built the middle class and employed immigrints. Even our damn hand grenades are made in China. So go buy ypur cheap shoes and I hope you feel real good about it.